Comments on: How the Times Memorializes a President http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2004/06/07/how-the-times-memorializes-a-president/ Specializing in Bovine Fecal Detection Since January of 2002 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 17:29:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Vinny http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2004/06/07/how-the-times-memorializes-a-president/#comment-179919 Vinny Fri, 11 Jun 2004 06:48:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=257#comment-179919 Typical leftist bullshit; but that doesn't surprise me. The body isn't even in the ground and already the hit pieces are rolling in. You guys are good; you don't miss a beat. Typical leftist bullshit; but that doesn’t surprise me. The body isn’t even in the ground and already the hit pieces are rolling in.

You guys are good; you don’t miss a beat.

]]> By: samuel http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2004/06/07/how-the-times-memorializes-a-president/#comment-179918 samuel Fri, 11 Jun 2004 02:38:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=257#comment-179918 Mr. Gorbachev's piece exudes a strong sense of humility. The former Soviet Premier is SOLELY responsible for the breakdown of the their own Socialist society but he is giving full credit to a man who couldnt even keep his eyes open during an adress by the Pope. (I'm not saying that I could either.) I thiink that the media is making a myth out of the truly mediocre record of "the Greatest Presisent of the 20th Century" Statistically speaking, 4everything the right likes to tout about Reagan, Clinton did better. Mr. Gorbachev’s piece exudes a strong sense of humility. The former Soviet Premier is SOLELY responsible for the breakdown of the their own Socialist society but he is giving full credit to a man who couldnt even keep his eyes open during an adress by the Pope. (I’m not saying that I could either.) I thiink that the media is making a myth out of the truly mediocre record of “the Greatest Presisent of the 20th Century” Statistically speaking, 4everything the right likes to tout about Reagan, Clinton did better.

]]> By: Vinny http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2004/06/07/how-the-times-memorializes-a-president/#comment-179917 Vinny Tue, 08 Jun 2004 17:53:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=257#comment-179917 I'm only saying I weigh the words coming out of their own mouth much more heavily than the words of others. The piece I quoted was the lead editorial that day... You are correct; and maybe my selection of pieces isn't wholly representative when taken in number, but taken in prominence and source, I think it deserves a heavier weight than other pieces... I’m only saying I weigh the words coming out of their own mouth much more heavily than the words of others. The piece I quoted was the lead editorial that day…

You are correct; and maybe my selection of pieces isn’t wholly representative when taken in number, but taken in prominence and source, I think it deserves a heavier weight than other pieces…

]]> By: RKB http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2004/06/07/how-the-times-memorializes-a-president/#comment-179916 RKB Tue, 08 Jun 2004 17:49:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=257#comment-179916 True. But they certainly didn't need to solicit or print Gorbachev's words. They've got a huge fricking op/ed page. Part of that, clearly, is what you've quoted above. But you can't point out about their slanted coverage if they also chose to publish more favorable pieces about Reagan. Also printed on the 7th, something from <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/07/opinion/O7DOLE.html?ex=1087272000&en=26ddd9f84388ffdf&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE" rel="nofollow">Bob Dole</a>, titled "Forever The Optimist." And a piece from William Safire -- "Reagan's Next Victory" -- on how "the outpouring of respect and affection for Ronald Reagan ó the principled president and principal Alzheimer's victim ó may help resolve the impasse blocking greater federal support of the use of embryonic stem cells in biomedical research." I'm certainly not gonna change yer mind about which way the Times tends to lean, but I do think that they painted a more than fair picture of Reagan, if not through their own words, then through the print space on those back two pages. True. But they certainly didn’t need to solicit or print Gorbachev’s words. They’ve got a huge fricking op/ed page. Part of that, clearly, is what you’ve quoted above. But you can’t point out about their slanted coverage if they also chose to publish more favorable pieces about Reagan.

Also printed on the 7th, something from Bob Dole, titled “Forever The Optimist.”

And a piece from William Safire — “Reagan’s Next Victory” — on how “the outpouring of respect and affection for Ronald Reagan ó the principled president and principal Alzheimer’s victim ó may help resolve the impasse blocking greater federal support of the use of embryonic stem cells in biomedical research.”

I’m certainly not gonna change yer mind about which way the Times tends to lean, but I do think that they painted a more than fair picture of Reagan, if not through their own words, then through the print space on those back two pages.

]]> By: Vinny http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2004/06/07/how-the-times-memorializes-a-president/#comment-179915 Vinny Tue, 08 Jun 2004 16:53:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=257#comment-179915 In fairness, the Gorbachev piece (while critical of the first term, and praising of the second) are not representative of the paper because they're not written by someone in the paper's employ... Just my humble opinion... In fairness, the Gorbachev piece (while critical of the first term, and praising of the second) are not representative of the paper because they’re not written by someone in the paper’s employ…

Just my humble opinion…

]]> By: RKB http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2004/06/07/how-the-times-memorializes-a-president/#comment-179913 RKB Tue, 08 Jun 2004 15:45:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=257#comment-179913 Don't know if you saw this or not, but the Times had also published <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/07/opinion/07GORB.html?ex=1087272000&en=36f124a02672ec9e&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE" rel="nofollow">this piece</a> yesterday, written by Mikhail Gorbachev. Don’t know if you saw this or not, but the Times had also published this piece yesterday, written by Mikhail Gorbachev.

]]> By: Pete from Astoria http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2004/06/07/how-the-times-memorializes-a-president/#comment-179912 Pete from Astoria Mon, 07 Jun 2004 12:51:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=257#comment-179912 Typical NY Times BS and revisionism. They call inheriting double-digit inflation, sky-hi unemployment and an energy crisis good timing and good luck? Yea right! Like Bill Clinton inheriting a booming dot-com economy that was destined to have a short life span. Tax cut driven deficits? It is an indisputable fact that revenues to the government exploded during the Reagan era. The deficits were a result of increased government spending, and increased military build up needed to win the cold war. Slogan driven foriegn policy? As apposed to Bill Clintons slogan driven domestic policy? Remember "I feel your pain" and "The era of big goverment is over" The NY Times continues to loose credibility, and continues to pander to the ultra-left and to the ignorant rich yuppies that live rich extravagant lives with their heads in the sand. Typical NY Times BS and revisionism. They call inheriting double-digit inflation, sky-hi unemployment and an energy crisis good timing and good luck? Yea right! Like Bill Clinton inheriting a booming dot-com economy that was destined to have a short life span.
Tax cut driven deficits? It is an indisputable fact that revenues to the government exploded during the Reagan era. The deficits were a result of increased government spending, and increased military build up needed to win the cold war.
Slogan driven foriegn policy? As apposed to Bill Clintons slogan driven domestic policy? Remember “I feel your pain” and “The era of big goverment is over” The NY Times continues to loose credibility, and continues to pander to the ultra-left and to the ignorant rich yuppies that live rich extravagant lives with their heads in the sand.

]]> By: Cait http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2004/06/07/how-the-times-memorializes-a-president/#comment-179911 Cait Mon, 07 Jun 2004 11:30:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=257#comment-179911 No, in fact, make that "shriveled souls" No, in fact, make that “shriveled souls”

]]> By: Cait http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2004/06/07/how-the-times-memorializes-a-president/#comment-179910 Cait Mon, 07 Jun 2004 11:29:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=257#comment-179910 To quote Shakespeare "damning with faint praise". They simply could not put aside petty sniping for one day, could they? You're quite right: small minds in small souls. To quote Shakespeare “damning with faint praise”. They simply could not put aside petty sniping for one day, could they? You’re quite right: small minds in small souls.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2004/06/07/how-the-times-memorializes-a-president/#comment-179909 Kevin Mon, 07 Jun 2004 09:56:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=257#comment-179909 Just another perfect example of unbiased, nonpartison journalism. What would a tribute to a conservative President be without bitching about how he gave out tax breaks and limited the size of Government. And it appears that President Regan was just lucky enough to be in office when the Evil Empire decided to change course. A lazy man all said and done, he was polite though! Well that is something. Just another perfect example of unbiased, nonpartison journalism. What would a tribute to a conservative President be without bitching about how he gave out tax breaks and limited the size of Government. And it appears that President Regan was just lucky enough to be in office when the Evil Empire decided to change course. A lazy man all said and done, he was polite though! Well that is something.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2004/06/07/how-the-times-memorializes-a-president/#comment-1899 Kevin Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=257#comment-1899 Just another perfect example of unbiased, nonpartison journalism. What would a tribute to a conservative President be without bitching about how he gave out tax breaks and limited the size of Government. And it appears that President Regan was just lucky enough to be in office when the Evil Empire decided to change course. A lazy man all said and done, he was polite though! Well that is something. Just another perfect example of unbiased, nonpartison journalism. What would a tribute to a conservative President be without bitching about how he gave out tax breaks and limited the size of Government. And it appears that President Regan was just lucky enough to be in office when the Evil Empire decided to change course. A lazy man all said and done, he was polite though! Well that is something.

]]> By: Cait http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2004/06/07/how-the-times-memorializes-a-president/#comment-1900 Cait Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=257#comment-1900 To quote Shakespeare "damning with faint praise". They simply could not put aside petty sniping for one day, could they? You're quite right: small minds in small souls. To quote Shakespeare “damning with faint praise”. They simply could not put aside petty sniping for one day, could they? You’re quite right: small minds in small souls.

]]> By: Cait http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2004/06/07/how-the-times-memorializes-a-president/#comment-1901 Cait Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=257#comment-1901 No, in fact, make that "shriveled souls" No, in fact, make that “shriveled souls”

]]> By: Pete from Astoria http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2004/06/07/how-the-times-memorializes-a-president/#comment-1902 Pete from Astoria Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=257#comment-1902 Typical NY Times BS and revisionism. They call inheriting double-digit inflation, sky-hi unemployment and an energy crisis good timing and good luck? Yea right! Like Bill Clinton inheriting a booming dot-com economy that was destined to have a short life span. Tax cut driven deficits? It is an indisputable fact that revenues to the government exploded during the Reagan era. The deficits were a result of increased government spending, and increased military build up needed to win the cold war. Slogan driven foriegn policy? As apposed to Bill Clintons slogan driven domestic policy? Remember "I feel your pain" and "The era of big goverment is over" The NY Times continues to loose credibility, and continues to pander to the ultra-left and to the ignorant rich yuppies that live rich extravagant lives with their heads in the sand. Typical NY Times BS and revisionism. They call inheriting double-digit inflation, sky-hi unemployment and an energy crisis good timing and good luck? Yea right! Like Bill Clinton inheriting a booming dot-com economy that was destined to have a short life span.
Tax cut driven deficits? It is an indisputable fact that revenues to the government exploded during the Reagan era. The deficits were a result of increased government spending, and increased military build up needed to win the cold war.
Slogan driven foriegn policy? As apposed to Bill Clintons slogan driven domestic policy? Remember “I feel your pain” and “The era of big goverment is over” The NY Times continues to loose credibility, and continues to pander to the ultra-left and to the ignorant rich yuppies that live rich extravagant lives with their heads in the sand.

]]> By: RKB http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2004/06/07/how-the-times-memorializes-a-president/#comment-1903 RKB Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=257#comment-1903 Don't know if you saw this or not, but the Times had also published <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/07/opinion/07GORB.html?ex=1087272000&en=36f124a02672ec9e&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE" rel="nofollow">this piece</a> yesterday, written by Mikhail Gorbachev. Don’t know if you saw this or not, but the Times had also published this piece yesterday, written by Mikhail Gorbachev.

]]> By: Vinny http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2004/06/07/how-the-times-memorializes-a-president/#comment-1904 Vinny Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=257#comment-1904 In fairness, the Gorbachev piece (while critical of the first term, and praising of the second) are not representative of the paper because they're not written by someone in the paper's employ... Just my humble opinion... In fairness, the Gorbachev piece (while critical of the first term, and praising of the second) are not representative of the paper because they’re not written by someone in the paper’s employ…

Just my humble opinion…

]]> By: RKB http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2004/06/07/how-the-times-memorializes-a-president/#comment-1905 RKB Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=257#comment-1905 True. But they certainly didn't need to solicit or print Gorbachev's words. They've got a huge fricking op/ed page. Part of that, clearly, is what you've quoted above. But you can't point out about their slanted coverage if they also chose to publish more favorable pieces about Reagan. Also printed on the 7th, something from <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/07/opinion/O7DOLE.html?ex=1087272000&en=26ddd9f84388ffdf&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE" rel="nofollow">Bob Dole</a>, titled "Forever The Optimist." And a piece from William Safire -- "Reagan's Next Victory" -- on how "the outpouring of respect and affection for Ronald Reagan ó the principled president and principal Alzheimer's victim ó may help resolve the impasse blocking greater federal support of the use of embryonic stem cells in biomedical research." I'm certainly not gonna change yer mind about which way the Times tends to lean, but I do think that they painted a more than fair picture of Reagan, if not through their own words, then through the print space on those back two pages. True. But they certainly didn’t need to solicit or print Gorbachev’s words. They’ve got a huge fricking op/ed page. Part of that, clearly, is what you’ve quoted above. But you can’t point out about their slanted coverage if they also chose to publish more favorable pieces about Reagan.

Also printed on the 7th, something from Bob Dole, titled “Forever The Optimist.”

And a piece from William Safire — “Reagan’s Next Victory” — on how “the outpouring of respect and affection for Ronald Reagan ó the principled president and principal Alzheimer’s victim ó may help resolve the impasse blocking greater federal support of the use of embryonic stem cells in biomedical research.”

I’m certainly not gonna change yer mind about which way the Times tends to lean, but I do think that they painted a more than fair picture of Reagan, if not through their own words, then through the print space on those back two pages.

]]> By: Vinny http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2004/06/07/how-the-times-memorializes-a-president/#comment-1906 Vinny Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=257#comment-1906 I'm only saying I weigh the words coming out of their own mouth much more heavily than the words of others. The piece I quoted was the lead editorial that day... You are correct; and maybe my selection of pieces isn't wholly representative when taken in number, but taken in prominence and source, I think it deserves a heavier weight than other pieces... I’m only saying I weigh the words coming out of their own mouth much more heavily than the words of others. The piece I quoted was the lead editorial that day…

You are correct; and maybe my selection of pieces isn’t wholly representative when taken in number, but taken in prominence and source, I think it deserves a heavier weight than other pieces…

]]> By: samuel http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2004/06/07/how-the-times-memorializes-a-president/#comment-1907 samuel Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=257#comment-1907 Mr. Gorbachev's piece exudes a strong sense of humility. The former Soviet Premier is SOLELY responsible for the breakdown of the their own Socialist society but he is giving full credit to a man who couldnt even keep his eyes open during an adress by the Pope. (I'm not saying that I could either.) I thiink that the media is making a myth out of the truly mediocre record of "the Greatest Presisent of the 20th Century" Statistically speaking, 4everything the right likes to tout about Reagan, Clinton did better. Mr. Gorbachev’s piece exudes a strong sense of humility. The former Soviet Premier is SOLELY responsible for the breakdown of the their own Socialist society but he is giving full credit to a man who couldnt even keep his eyes open during an adress by the Pope. (I’m not saying that I could either.) I thiink that the media is making a myth out of the truly mediocre record of “the Greatest Presisent of the 20th Century” Statistically speaking, 4everything the right likes to tout about Reagan, Clinton did better.

]]> By: Vinny http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2004/06/07/how-the-times-memorializes-a-president/#comment-1908 Vinny Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=257#comment-1908 Typical leftist bullshit; but that doesn't surprise me. The body isn't even in the ground and already the hit pieces are rolling in. You guys are good; you don't miss a beat. Typical leftist bullshit; but that doesn’t surprise me. The body isn’t even in the ground and already the hit pieces are rolling in.

You guys are good; you don’t miss a beat.

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