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Yahoo! News – U.S. students say press freedoms go too far
U.S. students say press freedoms go too far

Mon Jan 31, 7:20 AM ET

By Greg Toppo, USA TODAY

One in three U.S. high school students say the press ought to be more restricted, and even more say the government should approve newspaper stories before readers see them, according to a survey being released today.

The survey of 112,003 students finds that 36% believe newspapers should get “government approval” of stories before publishing; 51% say they should be able to publish freely; 13% have no opinion.

Asked whether the press enjoys “too much freedom,” not enough or about the right amount, 32% say “too much,” and 37% say it has the right amount. Ten percent say it has too little.

The survey of First Amendment rights was commissioned by the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation and conducted last spring by the University of Connecticut. It also questioned 327 principals and 7,889 teachers.

The findings aren’t surprising to Jack Dvorak, director of the High School Journalism Institute at Indiana University in Bloomington. “Even professional journalists are often unaware of a lot of the freedoms that might be associated with the First Amendment,” he says.

The survey “confirms what a lot of people who are interested in this area have known for a long time,” he says: Kids aren’t learning enough about the First Amendment in history, civics or English classes. It also tracks closely with recent findings of adults’ attitudes.

“It’s part of our Constitution, so this should be part of a formal education,” says Dvorak, who has worked with student journalists since 1968.

Although a large majority of students surveyed say musicians and others should be allowed to express “unpopular opinions,” 74% say people shouldn’t be able to burn or deface an American flag as a political statement; 75% mistakenly believe it is illegal.

The U.S. Supreme Court (news – web sites) in 1989 ruled that burning or defacing a flag is protected free speech. Congress has debated flag-burning amendments regularly since then; none has passed both the House and Senate.

Derek Springer, a first-year student at Ivy Tech State College in Muncie, Ind., credits his journalism adviser at Muncie Central High School with teaching students about the First Amendment, which guarantees freedom of speech, press and religion.

Last year, Springer led a group of student journalists who exposed payments a local basketball coach made to players for such things as attending practices and blocking shots. The newspaper also questioned requirements that students register their cars with the school to get parking passes.

Because they studied the First Amendment, he says, “we know that we can publish our opinion, and that we might be scrutinized, but we know we didn’t do anything wrong.”

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  • rhazes,
    Throwing a hissy doesn't help support your case.

    You do attract your fair share of freaks here too Vinny.
  • Rhazes, you stupid fuck. Find anywhere in these comments where I even said the word liberal.

    Anywhere at all.

    You fucking moron. If it makes you feel better, keep rocking. Painting me as a partisan is probably the most hysterically idiotic comment of all..
  • You're wrong.

    Period.
  • pete from astoria
    RBK,
    The only disagreement that I have with you is that I don’t believe that the students are being “dumbed down” so they don’t question the government. Government’s change, right now the US is in a “republican/conservative” phase. That could change as quickly as it did for the democrats in 1994. I believe questioning the government is a good thing no matter who is in power. I believe that the students are being kept in a state of ignorance (if that is indeed what is happening) so they don’t question the orthodoxy of progressive thought that runs rampant through academia. Many of these students then go out into the “real world” and tow the party line of whatever political movement fits in with what they were taught. There are of course other factors such a peer pressure, trying to fit in, etc. I attended college during the Reagan administration; believe me, I know all about it!
  • They aren't drawing their own conclusions, Rhazes. Teachers are broaching the subject (I don't know if you're aware of this, but since you live in NY, you might very well be) in something called US History (New York Students are required to take a Regents exam on it to graduate). College students are required to take at least one introductory government class. They aren't left to infer anything.

    So taking out the "they aren't teaching it so they're learning on their own" line, where are they getting the info from?
  • Stay with me and stop going off topic. This isn't about attributing power, it's about perception and bias being introduced to students as fact.
  • SO knowing that, why is it so hard for you to comprehend that teachers might be at least part of the problem in spite of guidelines, etc.?
  • Are you actually going to say that teachers don't bring their own agendas into the classroom?

    Mind you this is a yes or no question.
  • Dave
    Perhaps this is more of a backlash to the journalists that print stories that are either completely untrue or given a purposefull spin.

    Just a thought.
  • I wouldn't say what you posted is wrong, per se, just a difference in opinion. Really that doesn't point out a weakness of the survey, just a different way to ask the question.

    Either way, however it's worded, the end result should be that 100% of students think government should have no say in the press.

    It isn't.

    That's disturbing no matter how it's phrased.
  • Bob
    I recently graduated from Illinois State University and in my experience, about 90% of my instructors were liberals (many of whom were *excellent* teachers). The fact is that were Bush to get the DOA to push "the constitution, the federalist papers, and the bill of rights", educators would be up in arms - Not in OUR Name!!!

    Our youth need to learn that America is great only so long as she is a beacon of freedom. However, children are rarely taught about the great aspects of America because teachers seem to be leary of brain-washing them. Instead, we get poorly educated children developing into ignorant adults who tow the party line (Left or Right, depending on your skin color, neighborhood, and a few other superficial factors) , rather than think for themselves.

    Currently, with no media campaign promoting it, over a third of our youth would permit strong government censorship of news outlets. Dear God!!! With some encouragment, that number would surpass the half-way point faster than John Kerry could switch sides on the issue!

    We're screwed :-(

    -Bob
  • You're mistaken RKB. Education in general is dominated by liberal leanings.
  • RKB
    Pete -- first, you can't make the leap that just because college and university profs identify themselves as democrats/progressives that high school, grade school, and or middle school teachers would do the same. I went to public schools all the way through 12th grade, and the "liberal elite" were few and far between. Your typical "academic" college history prof (probably with at least a PhD) is a far cry from your typical suburban high school history teacher (probably the football or softball coach).

    Second, I didn't say anything about "alleged conservative teachers." I'll take out the parenthetical aside about "NO conservative teachers" so it makes more sense:
    You think there’s some concerted conspiracy from “liberal educators” to shy away from teaching kids about freedom of speech, in order to ensure a future where they march lockstep with the government?
    You seem to agree with this hypothesis, no? Don't teach the kids about history so they won't know about freedom of speech so the won't question what their government tells them.

    Does any of that sound even REMOTELY progressive to you? Don't you think that those damn liberal teachers would have their students learning to question EVERYTHING? To NEVER blindly trust in their own government?
  • pete from astoria
    RBK,

    In Bob’s defense, poll after poll taken of College/University faculty show that over 80% of them identify themselves as democrats/progressives! I haven’t seen any polls of High School teachers, but I would bet that the results would be similar if not as extreme. Also your comment about alleged conservative teachers ensuring that kids march lockstep with the government, the article specifically stated that 36% of the students believe that newspapers should get “government approval” of stories before publishing. I doubt very much that those 36% are all being brainwashed by conservative teachers. Liberals/progressive college administrators are the ones who constantly try to ban “politically incorrect” speech on campus, as well as trying to ban conservative college newspapers. Today’s students are taught very little about the constitution, the federalist papers, and the bill of rights, teaching them these things would highlight the accomplishments of dead white men, which is a no-no in today’s academia.
  • RKB
    Uh, Bob? What on earth does this story have to do with liberals? You think there's some concerted conspiracy from "liberal educators" -- assuming, of course, that there are no conservative teachers -- to shy away from teaching kids about freedom of speech, in order to ensure a future where they march lockstep with the government? I mean, assuming, again, that all three branches of the government promote "the liberal agenda?"
  • Bob
    Duh! If our liberal educators ever spent a lot of time teaching students the benefits of our constitution and the positive aspects of our government, they would just be mouth-pieces for the man. So of course they should keep the children hidden from any pro-US propaganda... I mean, how else can the children be enlightened?

    I hate those goddamn liberals.
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