Comments on: It’s an interesting conundrum we face… http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2005/04/30/its-an-interesting-conundrum-we-face/ Specializing in Bovine Fecal Detection Since January of 2002 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 17:29:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Chet http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2005/04/30/its-an-interesting-conundrum-we-face/#comment-185282 Chet Mon, 02 May 2005 18:45:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=1210#comment-185282 Just as in the workplace, one can find his or her own style within the acceptable dress codes of the business. But for most professions, too much deviance in apparel can cause distraction that hampers achieving the objectives of that environment. The primary objective of schools are to create an environment conducive to learning. Kids dressing funny for "expression of their uniqueness" or making political statements tend to distract from that primary goal. I think it's a powerful and positive message to send to kids that you go to school to learn first. There's a place and time to make strong statements. Just as grown-ups don't do it at work, kids shouldn't be doing it at school. That's what <b>extra</b>-curricular activities and independent activities are for. Having been through both private schooling with strict uniform codes and public schooling with more lax codes, I know first-hand the difference in attitudes among kids when asked to respect school with how they dress. When we hung out outside of school or afterschool, it was always fun to see our unique styles - and sometimes we were surpised how unique we all were, even though many of our interests may have been similar. Just as in the workplace, one can find his or her own style within the acceptable dress codes of the business. But for most professions, too much deviance in apparel can cause distraction that hampers achieving the objectives of that environment.

The primary objective of schools are to create an environment conducive to learning. Kids dressing funny for “expression of their uniqueness” or making political statements tend to distract from that primary goal.

I think it’s a powerful and positive message to send to kids that you go to school to learn first. There’s a place and time to make strong statements. Just as grown-ups don’t do it at work, kids shouldn’t be doing it at school. That’s what extra-curricular activities and independent activities are for.

Having been through both private schooling with strict uniform codes and public schooling with more lax codes, I know first-hand the difference in attitudes among kids when asked to respect school with how they dress. When we hung out outside of school or afterschool, it was always fun to see our unique styles – and sometimes we were surpised how unique we all were, even though many of our interests may have been similar.

]]> By: Chet http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2005/04/30/its-an-interesting-conundrum-we-face/#comment-185283 Chet Mon, 02 May 2005 18:45:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=1210#comment-185283 Just as in the workplace, one can find his or her own style within the acceptable dress codes of the business. But for most professions, too much deviance in apparel can cause distraction that hampers achieving the objectives of that environment. The primary objective of schools are to create an environment conducive to learning. Kids dressing funny for "expression of their uniqueness" or making political statements tend to distract from that primary goal. I think it's a powerful and positive message to send to kids that you go to school to learn first. There's a place and time to make strong statements. Just as grown-ups don't do it at work, kids shouldn't be doing it at school. That's what <b>extra</b>-curricular activities and independent activities are for. Having been through both private schooling with strict uniform codes and public schooling with more lax codes, I know first-hand the difference in attitudes among kids when asked to respect school with how they dress. When we hung out outside of school or afterschool, it was always fun to see our unique styles - and sometimes we were surpised how unique we all were, even though many of our interests may have been similar. Just as in the workplace, one can find his or her own style within the acceptable dress codes of the business. But for most professions, too much deviance in apparel can cause distraction that hampers achieving the objectives of that environment.

The primary objective of schools are to create an environment conducive to learning. Kids dressing funny for “expression of their uniqueness” or making political statements tend to distract from that primary goal.

I think it’s a powerful and positive message to send to kids that you go to school to learn first. There’s a place and time to make strong statements. Just as grown-ups don’t do it at work, kids shouldn’t be doing it at school. That’s what extra-curricular activities and independent activities are for.

Having been through both private schooling with strict uniform codes and public schooling with more lax codes, I know first-hand the difference in attitudes among kids when asked to respect school with how they dress. When we hung out outside of school or afterschool, it was always fun to see our unique styles – and sometimes we were surpised how unique we all were, even though many of our interests may have been similar.

]]> By: The Other Mike S http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2005/04/30/its-an-interesting-conundrum-we-face/#comment-185280 The Other Mike S Mon, 02 May 2005 17:31:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=1210#comment-185280 <i>Where are the critical thinking skills in picking up a witty t-shirt from JCPenny?</i> We'll never know now, will we? A huge part of schooling SHOULD be learning not only how to fit into society (team sports, clubs, etc.), but also in perfecting your own niche. Finding out who you are so you can be most successful in life as an adult. If some asinine T-shirt helps them along, more power to them. <i>They should be expressing themselves through their own words and thoughts, anyways.</i> Agreed. Where might they do that? Where are the critical thinking skills in picking up a witty t-shirt from JCPenny?

We’ll never know now, will we? A huge part of schooling SHOULD be learning not only how to fit into society (team sports, clubs, etc.), but also in perfecting your own niche. Finding out who you are so you can be most successful in life as an adult. If some asinine T-shirt helps them along, more power to them.

They should be expressing themselves through their own words and thoughts, anyways.

Agreed. Where might they do that?

]]> By: The Other Mike S http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2005/04/30/its-an-interesting-conundrum-we-face/#comment-185281 The Other Mike S Mon, 02 May 2005 17:31:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=1210#comment-185281 <i>Where are the critical thinking skills in picking up a witty t-shirt from JCPenny?</i> We'll never know now, will we? A huge part of schooling SHOULD be learning not only how to fit into society (team sports, clubs, etc.), but also in perfecting your own niche. Finding out who you are so you can be most successful in life as an adult. If some asinine T-shirt helps them along, more power to them. <i>They should be expressing themselves through their own words and thoughts, anyways.</i> Agreed. Where might they do that? Where are the critical thinking skills in picking up a witty t-shirt from JCPenny?

We’ll never know now, will we? A huge part of schooling SHOULD be learning not only how to fit into society (team sports, clubs, etc.), but also in perfecting your own niche. Finding out who you are so you can be most successful in life as an adult. If some asinine T-shirt helps them along, more power to them.

They should be expressing themselves through their own words and thoughts, anyways.

Agreed. Where might they do that?

]]> By: Chet http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2005/04/30/its-an-interesting-conundrum-we-face/#comment-185278 Chet Mon, 02 May 2005 14:01:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=1210#comment-185278 See, these kids of things is why, personally, I wouldn't mind a business casual-like dress code for our public schools. Run school like a workplace. Our kids would better benefit from not having to deal with the stress of "express themslves" in their clothing by finding the best way to dress like a clown everyday. And we'll be helping them get over the anxiety later on that some exprience of having to "dress up" for work everyday. They should be expressing themselves through their own words and thoughts, anyways. Not through some juvenile t-shirt slogan some dude in Fresno thought up one day at Denny's. Where are the critical thinking skills in picking up a witty t-shirt from JCPenny? See, these kids of things is why, personally, I wouldn’t mind a business casual-like dress code for our public schools. Run school like a workplace. Our kids would better benefit from not having to deal with the stress of “express themslves” in their clothing by finding the best way to dress like a clown everyday. And we’ll be helping them get over the anxiety later on that some exprience of having to “dress up” for work everyday.

They should be expressing themselves through their own words and thoughts, anyways. Not through some juvenile t-shirt slogan some dude in Fresno thought up one day at Denny’s. Where are the critical thinking skills in picking up a witty t-shirt from JCPenny?

]]> By: Chet http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2005/04/30/its-an-interesting-conundrum-we-face/#comment-185279 Chet Mon, 02 May 2005 14:01:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=1210#comment-185279 See, these kids of things is why, personally, I wouldn't mind a business casual-like dress code for our public schools. Run school like a workplace. Our kids would better benefit from not having to deal with the stress of "express themslves" in their clothing by finding the best way to dress like a clown everyday. And we'll be helping them get over the anxiety later on that some exprience of having to "dress up" for work everyday. They should be expressing themselves through their own words and thoughts, anyways. Not through some juvenile t-shirt slogan some dude in Fresno thought up one day at Denny's. Where are the critical thinking skills in picking up a witty t-shirt from JCPenny? See, these kids of things is why, personally, I wouldn’t mind a business casual-like dress code for our public schools. Run school like a workplace. Our kids would better benefit from not having to deal with the stress of “express themslves” in their clothing by finding the best way to dress like a clown everyday. And we’ll be helping them get over the anxiety later on that some exprience of having to “dress up” for work everyday.

They should be expressing themselves through their own words and thoughts, anyways. Not through some juvenile t-shirt slogan some dude in Fresno thought up one day at Denny’s. Where are the critical thinking skills in picking up a witty t-shirt from JCPenny?

]]> By: The Other Mike S http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2005/04/30/its-an-interesting-conundrum-we-face/#comment-185276 The Other Mike S Mon, 02 May 2005 10:45:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=1210#comment-185276 I'm glad Justis provided the links. This happens way too much, and for both sides. What I find disturbing is the fact that this type of political expression is being silenced. I think that it simply scares the school administrators. Instead of encouraging free thought and discussion, administrators only want kids to learn that which is neatly packaged and which they can control. Critical thinking skills? Pfffft.... I’m glad Justis provided the links. This happens way too much, and for both sides. What I find disturbing is the fact that this type of political expression is being silenced. I think that it simply scares the school administrators. Instead of encouraging free thought and discussion, administrators only want kids to learn that which is neatly packaged and which they can control.

Critical thinking skills? Pfffft….

]]> By: The Other Mike S http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2005/04/30/its-an-interesting-conundrum-we-face/#comment-185277 The Other Mike S Mon, 02 May 2005 10:45:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=1210#comment-185277 I'm glad Justis provided the links. This happens way too much, and for both sides. What I find disturbing is the fact that this type of political expression is being silenced. I think that it simply scares the school administrators. Instead of encouraging free thought and discussion, administrators only want kids to learn that which is neatly packaged and which they can control. Critical thinking skills? Pfffft.... I’m glad Justis provided the links. This happens way too much, and for both sides. What I find disturbing is the fact that this type of political expression is being silenced. I think that it simply scares the school administrators. Instead of encouraging free thought and discussion, administrators only want kids to learn that which is neatly packaged and which they can control.

Critical thinking skills? Pfffft….

]]> By: justis http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2005/04/30/its-an-interesting-conundrum-we-face/#comment-185274 justis Sun, 01 May 2005 16:21:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=1210#comment-185274 Here's one... <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Midwest/02/19/antibush.tshirt.ap/" rel="nofollow"> </a><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Midwest/02/19/antibush.tshirt.ap/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Midwest/02/19/antibush.tshirt.ap/</a> Here's another (in PDF format)... <a href="http://nysd.uscourts.gov/courtweb/pdf/D02VTXC/04-08577.PDF" rel="nofollow"> </a><a href="http://nysd.uscourts.gov/courtweb/pdf/D02VTXC/04-08577.PDF" rel="nofollow">http://nysd.uscourts.gov/courtweb/pdf/D02VTXC/04-08577.PDF</a> And one more... <a href="http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/local/2004/11/20schoolordersboy.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/local/2004/11/20schoolordersboy.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/local/2004/11/20schoolordersboy.html</a> Here’s one…

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Midwest/02/19/antibush.tshirt.ap/

Here’s another (in PDF format)…

http://nysd.uscourts.gov/courtweb/pdf/D02VTXC/04-08577.PDF

And one more…
http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/local/2004/11/20schoolordersboy.html

]]> By: justis http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2005/04/30/its-an-interesting-conundrum-we-face/#comment-185275 justis Sun, 01 May 2005 16:21:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=1210#comment-185275 Here's one... <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Midwest/02/19/antibush.tshirt.ap/" rel="nofollow"> </a><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Midwest/02/19/antibush.tshirt.ap/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Midwest/02/19/antibush.tshirt.ap/</a> Here's another (in PDF format)... <a href="http://nysd.uscourts.gov/courtweb/pdf/D02VTXC/04-08577.PDF" rel="nofollow"> </a><a href="http://nysd.uscourts.gov/courtweb/pdf/D02VTXC/04-08577.PDF" rel="nofollow">http://nysd.uscourts.gov/courtweb/pdf/D02VTXC/04-08577.PDF</a> And one more... <a href="http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/local/2004/11/20schoolordersboy.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/local/2004/11/20schoolordersboy.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/local/2004/11/20schoolordersboy.html</a> Here’s one…

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Midwest/02/19/antibush.tshirt.ap/

Here’s another (in PDF format)…

http://nysd.uscourts.gov/courtweb/pdf/D02VTXC/04-08577.PDF

And one more…
http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/local/2004/11/20schoolordersboy.html

]]> By: Dick http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2005/04/30/its-an-interesting-conundrum-we-face/#comment-185273 Dick Sun, 01 May 2005 00:42:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=1210#comment-185273 Why because Bush is a terrorist. A man of God who carries the good book with him can be the instrument for the death of 1500 Americans and tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians. What else could you call him? A man of pease. Unfotunately he is a nitwit/moron besides. You your senses and not your cents! Why because Bush is a terrorist. A man of God who carries the good book with him can be the instrument for the death of 1500 Americans and tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians. What else could you call him? A man of pease.
Unfotunately he is a nitwit/moron besides.

You your senses and not your cents!

]]> By: Dick http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2005/04/30/its-an-interesting-conundrum-we-face/#comment-6970 Dick Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=1210#comment-6970 Why because Bush is a terrorist. A man of God who carries the good book with him can be the instrument for the death of 1500 Americans and tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians. What else could you call him? A man of pease. Unfotunately he is a nitwit/moron besides. You your senses and not your cents! Why because Bush is a terrorist. A man of God who carries the good book with him can be the instrument for the death of 1500 Americans and tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians. What else could you call him? A man of pease.
Unfotunately he is a nitwit/moron besides.

You your senses and not your cents!

]]> By: justis http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2005/04/30/its-an-interesting-conundrum-we-face/#comment-6971 justis Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=1210#comment-6971 Here's one... <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Midwest/02/19/antibush.tshirt.ap/" rel="nofollow"> <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Midwest/02/19/antibush.tshirt.ap/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Midwest/02/19/antibush.tshirt.ap/</a></a> Here's another (in PDF format)... <a href="http://nysd.uscourts.gov/courtweb/pdf/D02VTXC/04-08577.PDF" rel="nofollow"> <a href="http://nysd.uscourts.gov/courtweb/pdf/D02VTXC/04-08577.PDF" rel="nofollow">http://nysd.uscourts.gov/courtweb/pdf/D02VTXC/04-08577.PDF</a></a> And one more... <a href="http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/local/2004/11/20schoolordersboy.html" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/local/2004/11/20schoolordersboy.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/local/2004/11/20schoolordersboy.html</a></a> Here’s one…

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Midwest/02/19/antibush.tshirt.ap/

Here’s another (in PDF format)…

http://nysd.uscourts.gov/courtweb/pdf/D02VTXC/04-08577.PDF

And one more…
http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/local/2004/11/20schoolordersboy.html

]]> By: The Other Mike S http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2005/04/30/its-an-interesting-conundrum-we-face/#comment-6972 The Other Mike S Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=1210#comment-6972 I'm glad Justis provided the links. This happens way too much, and for both sides. What I find disturbing is the fact that this type of political expression is being silenced. I think that it simply scares the school administrators. Instead of encouraging free thought and discussion, administrators only want kids to learn that which is neatly packaged and which they can control. Critical thinking skills? Pfffft.... I’m glad Justis provided the links. This happens way too much, and for both sides. What I find disturbing is the fact that this type of political expression is being silenced. I think that it simply scares the school administrators. Instead of encouraging free thought and discussion, administrators only want kids to learn that which is neatly packaged and which they can control.

Critical thinking skills? Pfffft….

]]> By: Chet http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2005/04/30/its-an-interesting-conundrum-we-face/#comment-6973 Chet Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=1210#comment-6973 See, these kids of things is why, personally, I wouldn't mind a business casual-like dress code for our public schools. Run school like a workplace. Our kids would better benefit from not having to deal with the stress of "express themslves" in their clothing by finding the best way to dress like a clown everyday. And we'll be helping them get over the anxiety later on that some exprience of having to "dress up" for work everyday. They should be expressing themselves through their own words and thoughts, anyways. Not through some juvenile t-shirt slogan some dude in Fresno thought up one day at Denny's. Where are the critical thinking skills in picking up a witty t-shirt from JCPenny? See, these kids of things is why, personally, I wouldn’t mind a business casual-like dress code for our public schools. Run school like a workplace. Our kids would better benefit from not having to deal with the stress of “express themslves” in their clothing by finding the best way to dress like a clown everyday. And we’ll be helping them get over the anxiety later on that some exprience of having to “dress up” for work everyday.

They should be expressing themselves through their own words and thoughts, anyways. Not through some juvenile t-shirt slogan some dude in Fresno thought up one day at Denny’s. Where are the critical thinking skills in picking up a witty t-shirt from JCPenny?

]]> By: The Other Mike S http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2005/04/30/its-an-interesting-conundrum-we-face/#comment-6974 The Other Mike S Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=1210#comment-6974 <i>Where are the critical thinking skills in picking up a witty t-shirt from JCPenny?</i> We'll never know now, will we? A huge part of schooling SHOULD be learning not only how to fit into society (team sports, clubs, etc.), but also in perfecting your own niche. Finding out who you are so you can be most successful in life as an adult. If some asinine T-shirt helps them along, more power to them. <i>They should be expressing themselves through their own words and thoughts, anyways.</i> Agreed. Where might they do that? Where are the critical thinking skills in picking up a witty t-shirt from JCPenny?

We’ll never know now, will we? A huge part of schooling SHOULD be learning not only how to fit into society (team sports, clubs, etc.), but also in perfecting your own niche. Finding out who you are so you can be most successful in life as an adult. If some asinine T-shirt helps them along, more power to them.

They should be expressing themselves through their own words and thoughts, anyways.

Agreed. Where might they do that?

]]> By: Chet http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2005/04/30/its-an-interesting-conundrum-we-face/#comment-6975 Chet Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=1210#comment-6975 Just as in the workplace, one can find his or her own style within the acceptable dress codes of the business. But for most professions, too much deviance in apparel can cause distraction that hampers achieving the objectives of that environment. The primary objective of schools are to create an environment conducive to learning. Kids dressing funny for "expression of their uniqueness" or making political statements tend to distract from that primary goal. I think it's a powerful and positive message to send to kids that you go to school to learn first. There's a place and time to make strong statements. Just as grown-ups don't do it at work, kids shouldn't be doing it at school. That's what <b>extra</b>-curricular activities and independent activities are for. Having been through both private schooling with strict uniform codes and public schooling with more lax codes, I know first-hand the difference in attitudes among kids when asked to respect school with how they dress. When we hung out outside of school or afterschool, it was always fun to see our unique styles - and sometimes we were surpised how unique we all were, even though many of our interests may have been similar. Just as in the workplace, one can find his or her own style within the acceptable dress codes of the business. But for most professions, too much deviance in apparel can cause distraction that hampers achieving the objectives of that environment.

The primary objective of schools are to create an environment conducive to learning. Kids dressing funny for “expression of their uniqueness” or making political statements tend to distract from that primary goal.

I think it’s a powerful and positive message to send to kids that you go to school to learn first. There’s a place and time to make strong statements. Just as grown-ups don’t do it at work, kids shouldn’t be doing it at school. That’s what extra-curricular activities and independent activities are for.

Having been through both private schooling with strict uniform codes and public schooling with more lax codes, I know first-hand the difference in attitudes among kids when asked to respect school with how they dress. When we hung out outside of school or afterschool, it was always fun to see our unique styles – and sometimes we were surpised how unique we all were, even though many of our interests may have been similar.

]]>