You want our money with no strings attached?

It amazes me. Everyone puts their hands out to the US for money. Everyone. They all want a piece of the evil great Satan’s cash.

But when the US only gives it conditionally, panties are riled all about.

Witnesseth Brazil (king of South American transsexuals and prostitutes) wetting their collective panties over the Bush Administration’s refusal to hand over funds to countries that won’t teach abstinence and fidelity and instead wants to use US money to buy rubbers for its horny population, and run abortion factories:

“This would be entirely in contradiction with Brazilian guidelines for a programme that has been working very well for years. We are providing condoms, and doing a lot of prevention work with sex workers, and the rate of infection has stabilised and dropped since the 1980s,” said Sonia Correa, an Aids activist in Brazil and co-chair of the International Working Group on Sexuality and Social Policy.

“The US is doing the same in other countries – bullying, pushing and forcing – but not every country has the possibility to say no.”

Adrienne Germain, president of the International Women’s Health Coalition, said: “The importance of the Brazilian government decision can not be overstated.”

I say no blood for rubbers. No hard-earned american dollars should go to condom programs in any country, particularly one with such a sordid sex industry. Don’t know what I’m talking about? Google it and educate yourselves.

Anyway, I think Brazil should stop worrying about US funding. They should put their hands out to the other seriously generous and very well-off countries who also give tons to humanitarian causes around the world. Germany, France, and Canada are all on the moral high ground (we know this because they tell it to us whenever given the opportunity). Hit them up for a few billion. I’m sure they won’t care what you spend it on.

Then again, they might laugh at your outstretched hand and clench onto that last nickel with their ultimate dying breath.

You never can be too sure with those pseudo-socialist governments.

Source: The Guardian

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  • Patrick

    Oh god.

    Sometimes I wish the rapture would occur so we could postulate our debates with some sort of sensibility and rid its process of the mindless and irresponsible recycling of strict ideological talking points. But that’s just me…

    Can’t we just address the issue and work towards a common goal? Do we always have to drag “American values” into the discussion?

    Funny- in Bush’s attempt to instill his “firm beliefs” in foreign policy matters and convey to the world the morality U.S. intentions, he has irrevocably damaged this country’s reputation.

    Maybe good governance does call for analysis and conceptual thought after all…

  • http://www.insignificantthoughts.com Vinny

    It’s American money, Patrick! Why throw it away on a country whose sex industry is the way it is, and most likely a direct cause of the high HIV rate?

    Honestly… If they can put their hands out for our money, then can accept our conditions for getting it. Otherwise, they can just move on to the next person shelling out cash. I really don’t see the problem here at all; particularly with a country that’s as much of a sexual cesspool as Brazil.

    You want our money, here are the conditions for taking it. Otherwise, move on.

  • Patrick

    I’m only annoyed because the conditions are focused around Christian values. I think AIDS is a global issue that transcends culture, religion and government. The solution calls for pragmatism, not spiritual revelation and Sunday School. Why the leader of the free world can’t understand that…

  • http://nonannystate.blogspot.com The Other Mike S

    While I disagree with the Administration’s stance, fuck Brazil. It’s our money, the the Administration that is in charge has the right to attach any strings they wish. You don’t like it, go fuck yourself (by doing the suggested Google search, I’ve found that many of the hermaphrodites can do just that….)

  • Patrick

    Yeah, and fuck all those dying children who contracted the disease from their slut-ass mothers. Truly eloquent, Mike #2.

  • http://www.insignificantthoughts.com Vinny

    Patrick…

    Why is that the US’ problem?

    Why is it not the UN’s problem?

    You want our money, here it is, but you can’t just have a blank check so you can equip all your hookers with condoms and let them continue to be hookers.

    I just, for the life of me, cannot see the problem here.

  • Patrick

    Yeah, shift the blame to the UN. So much for the moral superiority of the US…

  • http://www.insignificantthoughts.com Vinny

    Well… According to your earlier point, the US has no authority to exercise any morality so which is it?

    Oh wait… They only have that authority when it’s of a liberal mindset… Which is it Patrick?

  • Patrick

    I wasn’t defending the validity of said concept as much as I was criticizing it. I guess I didn’t convey my piont the way I’d have liked to. I need to work on that, I think.

  • Dave

    Patrick, why does abstinence have to a religeous value?

    As a way of relating, I would rather donate $5 worth of food to a food pantry than give $5 to a guy on the street with his hand out. I’m making sure the money goes to the kind of help that I want to support. Isn’t that my right?

  • http://www.linoge.net/weblog/ Linoge

    Of course, the really amusing thing is that “Sunday School” offers the only 100%-effective, 100%-of-the-time method of not contracting a sexually-transmitted disease (by sexual methods, at least).

    For the dimwitted (read “Liberals”), it is otherwise known as “abstinence”. A dirty word, I know, but you may as well start learning it. Of course, abstinence is not a “religious” concept at all… it is sheer, unadulterated, logical common sense (useless as that phrase may be).

    At any rate, screw Brazil. We are allowed to put any kind of qualifications on any money we give out. It is our money. We can decide what we want to do with it, as we see fit. If Brazil (or anyone else) does not like it, they can politely fold their complaints until they are all sharp corners, and shove them up….

    Anywise, I agree… This is something better handled by the millions of dollars we pointlessly give to the ingrate putzes known as the “UN”. The US should not be the world’s blind lender. Sorry.

  • Patrick

    Linoge

    For the dimwitted (read “Liberals”), it is otherwise known as “abstinence”.

    Perhaps it’s your inability to understand the hopelessness of getting folks to be abstinent. Somewhere, sometime, logic needs to begin playing a role in the argument.

    No one said “abstinence” was a dirty word. No one said it maintains any religious connotation. I did call for a thoughtful debate; one that welcomes an open minded and analytical approach. I abhor the idea that we should focus our efforts on trying to validate an ideology rather than seek an effective solution. (An offense of which both political parties and most notably, religion, have been guilty. For more, refer to this quote: “I think AIDS is a global issue that transcends culture, religion and government.”)

    My idea:

    Since these people can’t seem to stop fucking, provide them the condoms they need. Condoms have undisputedly played a role in STD prevention. Abstinence is touted as the “only sure way of prevention,” but it isn’t logical. Stupid as they may be, the human race keeps having sex and risking the contraction of STDs. Unfortunately we need to pursue other means of prevention. Unless, of course, you are calling for a more Darwinian approach.

  • http://www.insignificantthoughts.com Vinny

    If providing those condoms, and all the money would mean that Brazil would try to do something to get its sex industry under control, that’s something that could probably be more palatable to some. Personally, I see it as hypocritical for them to blame the US for not giving enough money or giving money with strings attached while they do nothing to stop the prostitution (instead they accept it and treat the symptoms) and unprotected porn industry.

    Brazil is a mess. Throwing money at it ain’t gonna fix it.

  • http://www.linoge.net/weblog/ Linoge

    I am sorry, but when faced with a life-ending disease, it really is not that hard to stop doing whatever it is that would give you that disease. At least if you have an IQ higher than the temperature in my freezer.

    If people want to keep doing that which will get them killed, I refuse to pay for any method of helping them continue in their actions, or even pay for their treatment. They contracted AIDS through their own actions, and through their own idiotic stupidity. They are on their own. (For those who contract the disease through such unfortnate incidents as being born to a positive mother, or by needles (assuming they are not drug needles, or second-hand ones, or in some way not certified-clean ones from a hospital), I have a heartfull of sympathy, and I am more than willing to help them out. For clarification.) As for paying for condoms… well, hell, those are not entirely effective either. So here you are, trying to get a country to fund a non-effective way of solving a problem that can only be solved by educating people, and getting them to control their basal instincts.

    Sorry, but we are humans. We are not some scrabbling animal who will hump anything with the appropriate holes. We are more than capable of keeping our animalistic desires in check, if we really want to. Something tells me watching one’s friends die from AIDS might just install that desire into people…

    And, yeah, for the record, I am one of those bastardly, asshole, dirty Darwinists you probably so enjoy. Deal with it.

  • Patrick

    Oh god.

    Sometimes I wish the rapture would occur so we could postulate our debates with some sort of sensibility and rid its process of the mindless and irresponsible recycling of strict ideological talking points. But that’s just me…

    Can’t we just address the issue and work towards a common goal? Do we always have to drag “American values” into the discussion?

    Funny- in Bush’s attempt to instill his “firm beliefs” in foreign policy matters and convey to the world the morality U.S. intentions, he has irrevocably damaged this country’s reputation.

    Maybe good governance does call for analysis and conceptual thought after all…

  • http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/ Vinny

    It’s American money, Patrick! Why throw it away on a country whose sex industry is the way it is, and most likely a direct cause of the high HIV rate?

    Honestly… If they can put their hands out for our money, then can accept our conditions for getting it. Otherwise, they can just move on to the next person shelling out cash. I really don’t see the problem here at all; particularly with a country that’s as much of a sexual cesspool as Brazil.

    You want our money, here are the conditions for taking it. Otherwise, move on.

  • Patrick

    I’m only annoyed because the conditions are focused around Christian values. I think AIDS is a global issue that transcends culture, religion and government. The solution calls for pragmatism, not spiritual revelation and Sunday School. Why the leader of the free world can’t understand that…

  • http://nonannystate.blogspot.com/ The Other Mike S

    While I disagree with the Administration’s stance, fuck Brazil. It’s our money, the the Administration that is in charge has the right to attach any strings they wish. You don’t like it, go fuck yourself (by doing the suggested Google search, I’ve found that many of the hermaphrodites can do just that….)

  • Patrick

    Yeah, and fuck all those dying children who contracted the disease from their slut-ass mothers. Truly eloquent, Mike #2.

  • http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/ Vinny

    Patrick…

    Why is that the US’ problem?

    Why is it not the UN’s problem?

    You want our money, here it is, but you can’t just have a blank check so you can equip all your hookers with condoms and let them continue to be hookers.

    I just, for the life of me, cannot see the problem here.

  • Patrick

    Yeah, shift the blame to the UN. So much for the moral superiority of the US…

  • http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/ Vinny

    Well… According to your earlier point, the US has no authority to exercise any morality so which is it?

    Oh wait… They only have that authority when it’s of a liberal mindset… Which is it Patrick?

  • Patrick

    I wasn’t defending the validity of said concept as much as I was criticizing it. I guess I didn’t convey my piont the way I’d have liked to. I need to work on that, I think.

  • Dave

    Patrick, why does abstinence have to a religeous value?

    As a way of relating, I would rather donate $5 worth of food to a food pantry than give $5 to a guy on the street with his hand out. I’m making sure the money goes to the kind of help that I want to support. Isn’t that my right?

  • http://www.linoge.net/weblog/ Linoge

    Of course, the really amusing thing is that “Sunday School” offers the only 100%-effective, 100%-of-the-time method of not contracting a sexually-transmitted disease (by sexual methods, at least).

    For the dimwitted (read “Liberals”), it is otherwise known as “abstinence”. A dirty word, I know, but you may as well start learning it. Of course, abstinence is not a “religious” concept at all… it is sheer, unadulterated, logical common sense (useless as that phrase may be).

    At any rate, screw Brazil. We are allowed to put any kind of qualifications on any money we give out. It is our money. We can decide what we want to do with it, as we see fit. If Brazil (or anyone else) does not like it, they can politely fold their complaints until they are all sharp corners, and shove them up….

    Anywise, I agree… This is something better handled by the millions of dollars we pointlessly give to the ingrate putzes known as the “UN”. The US should not be the world’s blind lender. Sorry.

  • Patrick

    Linoge

    For the dimwitted (read “Liberals”), it is otherwise known as “abstinence”.

    Perhaps it’s your inability to understand the hopelessness of getting folks to be abstinent. Somewhere, sometime, logic needs to begin playing a role in the argument.

    No one said “abstinence” was a dirty word. No one said it maintains any religious connotation. I did call for a thoughtful debate; one that welcomes an open minded and analytical approach. I abhor the idea that we should focus our efforts on trying to validate an ideology rather than seek an effective solution. (An offense of which both political parties and most notably, religion, have been guilty. For more, refer to this quote: “I think AIDS is a global issue that transcends culture, religion and government.”)

    My idea:

    Since these people can’t seem to stop fucking, provide them the condoms they need. Condoms have undisputedly played a role in STD prevention. Abstinence is touted as the “only sure way of prevention,” but it isn’t logical. Stupid as they may be, the human race keeps having sex and risking the contraction of STDs. Unfortunately we need to pursue other means of prevention. Unless, of course, you are calling for a more Darwinian approach.

  • http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/ Vinny

    If providing those condoms, and all the money would mean that Brazil would try to do something to get its sex industry under control, that’s something that could probably be more palatable to some. Personally, I see it as hypocritical for them to blame the US for not giving enough money or giving money with strings attached while they do nothing to stop the prostitution (instead they accept it and treat the symptoms) and unprotected porn industry.

    Brazil is a mess. Throwing money at it ain’t gonna fix it.

  • http://www.linoge.net/weblog/ Linoge

    I am sorry, but when faced with a life-ending disease, it really is not that hard to stop doing whatever it is that would give you that disease. At least if you have an IQ higher than the temperature in my freezer.

    If people want to keep doing that which will get them killed, I refuse to pay for any method of helping them continue in their actions, or even pay for their treatment. They contracted AIDS through their own actions, and through their own idiotic stupidity. They are on their own. (For those who contract the disease through such unfortnate incidents as being born to a positive mother, or by needles (assuming they are not drug needles, or second-hand ones, or in some way not certified-clean ones from a hospital), I have a heartfull of sympathy, and I am more than willing to help them out. For clarification.) As for paying for condoms… well, hell, those are not entirely effective either. So here you are, trying to get a country to fund a non-effective way of solving a problem that can only be solved by educating people, and getting them to control their basal instincts.

    Sorry, but we are humans. We are not some scrabbling animal who will hump anything with the appropriate holes. We are more than capable of keeping our animalistic desires in check, if we really want to. Something tells me watching one’s friends die from AIDS might just install that desire into people…

    And, yeah, for the record, I am one of those bastardly, asshole, dirty Darwinists you probably so enjoy. Deal with it.