More Harassment of Photographers, This Time in NYC

A couple of months ago, I wrote about a photographer who was detained for taking pictures of the BART system in California. RKB also linked a similar story in the comments. I was hoping that things would have cleared themselves up and the authorities would’ve realized that some people just like taking pictures. Was I ever wrong.

Sharma was in America on a screening tour of his film across several universities since March 22. He arrived in New York May 12 from Los Angeles for a screening of his film at the New School, and was staying at Hotel Bedford on 40th St.

The next day he was out about 2:30pm with his tourist-grade Sony palmcorder. “I walked around the block and found an interesting visual—yellow cabs emerging from the underpass and receding against the backdrop of tall buildings,” said Sharma.

That is when his troubles began. “I took several shots and started walking to the next block, en route to Times Square when I was approached by a gentleman wearing a pair of jeans and a shirt, who flashed or rather rapidly flipped a badge and identified himself as Detective Elimeyer of NYPD,” Sharma said in a complaint filed with the Civilian Complaint Review Board, an independent mayoral agency which reviews police conduct.

Now mind you, he’s done nothing wrong at this point. He’s videotaping traffic and a building. Observe the silliness of this story progress into stupidity:

“The detective told me he found me suspicious because I had been shooting at the spot for half an hour,”

“He insisted that I was shooting a ‘sensitive’ building. He said ‘it was okay if you were walking and shooting for a minute or two,’ at which point I asked him whether there was a law I had broken or it I needed police permission to take candid shots on the streets of Manhattan or whether there was indeed a ceiling on the number of minutes I could shoot at a spot.

“He said less than five minutes was fine but when I asked what about 15 or 20 or more, he said, ‘Buddy, that’s going to be a problem’.” By standing in one spot, the officer told Sharma, he was engaging in “suspicious behavior.”

This is the problem. It’s not the law. The law is what it is. It’s the fact that the law is interpreted (or in this case invented) at the whim of the person enforcing it. Now this would all be bad enough. A foreign filmmaker being held for no reason and being threatened as if he did something illegal when he didn’t. This alone would be enough to get the juices flowing for most normal people. So now we continue the story. After asking Sharma (and being allowed) to look into his shoulder bag:

At that point, according to the complaint, the officer walked over to a patrolman when Sharma turned on the camera to offer to play back the recorded footage, when, he said, the officer charged him, shoved him, snatched the camera and said, “We know how to deal with you guys.” The officer then said he was authorized to punch him if necessary, Sharma said.

For nearly two hours Sharma was made to stand on the sidewalk outside a Starbucks, coffee shop with his camera and passport in the detective’s possession, not allowed to move, not allowed to use his phone or buy water. He said he was humiliated in front of hundreds of passers-by and onlookers.

Now mind you that while this insanity is going on for two hours, and the police are hoping that this darkskinned man will turn out to be the next big surprise terrorist bust, the job they’re really supposed to be doing is not getting done.

Sharma ended up being taken to a precinct after further questioning, and because of Google he was able to prove who he was.

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. I’m all for the protection of this country and tightening laws that put people in danger. However there is no law on the books that backs the harassment of this man. Yet again, as with the case on the BART, an overzealous police officer seems to be making a play to find the “next big bust” and trampled all over the rights of this guy.

I’m willing to hear the other side of the story if it’s presented somewhere, but frankly I don’t see how the NYPD’s actions here can be considered proportional or reasonable.

Source: Indypress NY

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  • balbulican

    I think I spotted the line in this story that pissed you off.

    “For nearly two hours Sharma was made to stand on the sidewalk outside a Starbucks.”

    OUTSIDE a Starbucks. For two hours. Denial of Frappucino. That’s inhuman.

  • http://nonannystate.blogspot.com The Other Mike S

    I share your outrage. What is sad is that most people will find this behavior acceptable. “He coulda been scopin’ out the next 9/11 attack, you never know”, or some shit like that. As a nation, we are BEGGING our government to trample our rights in the name of safety.

    We’ve become nothing but a nation of shivering, simpering cowards.

  • http://www.insignificantthoughts.com Vinny

    It’s getting scary out there. When taking a picture in public is perceived as a crime, you have a problem. This combined with the “flag burning” amendment just rubs me the wrong way.

  • http://nonannystate.blogspot.com The Other Mike S

    What, are you trying to have my arteries all burst on the same day?! Are you looking to read a newspaper headline, “Man found dead at computer, jaw clinched, writing about personal freedom”?

    We’re getting OT here, but the flag burning thing just drives me nuts. Daniel over at lobowalk said it perfectly, “A Constitutional amendment to violate the First Amendment . . . Stupid shit.”

    I need to go dream of green fields, chirping birds and babbling brooks….:wink:

  • Sirrios

    These are the very things I am talkimg about Vinny. These are the actions that I have complained about time and time again an get lamblasted about it over at places like mad Mikey’s and Dog Shit. Individual freedoms, invasion of privacy, ridiculous measure being put in place by and for law enforcement that not only do nothing to protect us, but only add confusion and stupidity to the entire situation. It all comes down to one question – are we any safer today than we were on Sept. 10th 2001?

    I say no. And we have had almost 4 years to get safer. It isn’t like the money wasn’t there to do it. Almost 200 billion dollars by itself has been spent on iraq. And all we have to show for it is being made to take our shoes off at the airport and a color coded “threat” system. So, tell me – what has been done? What they did to this man did not make anybody safer. It infringed upon his rights and privacy.

    I think the only thing we are doing is making things safer to do business.

  • http://www.insignificantthoughts.com Vinny

    I wouldn’t disagree with you, but I would note that there are no laws in place backing what the police are doing to people for taking pictures anyway. If this were part of some great scheme to suppress rights, you might have a point, but it isn’t. It’s overzealous police officers looking to be the next “I stopped a terrorist attack” hero.

    This “made-up law” problem is not a creation of a government, it’s a failure of a government to rein in the people doing it.

  • Sirrios

    A bigger problem is everytime we talk about limiting or pulling on the reins of our law enforcement officers, those of us sayin this needs to be done are labaled as being “pro-terrorist.” So now you are seeing, Vinny, where our frustration comes in. You are seeing things from our side of the world and feeling what we feel. None of us are on the side of the terrorists because we are against what the Bu$hCo and his GOP necons are trying to do. We are for the freedoms garunateed to us by the US Constitution. And we are willing to take the risks to continue to have those same freedoms instead of giving them up for the sake of “safety.”
    So, the problem still lies with the Big Fish. If they stand idly by and allow these “hero” cops to do this, than they themselves are just as guilty. When the Big Fish say “do what you need to do” and then turn a blind eye to it, iit is then just as much their fault too.

  • http://www.insignificantthoughts.com Vinny

    Now?

    Dude, this isn’t recent. I’ve been seeing it forever. Just because I’m a rightwinger doesn’t mean I bow down and lick the feet of W.

    As for your comment, I’d agree. However, there are some true angles to the “pro terrorist” accusation; not everyone that wants to rein in the police wants to do so for altruistic motives, and not every overreach of the law is a horrible injustice that requires the person doing so to be drawn and quartered.

    I do, however, think we need to do a better job of finding the balance, and protecting individual rights. Should the police have more flexibility? Absolutely. Should they be held accountable if they abuse it? Doubly so.

  • Sirrios

    And not everyone who wants to rein in the police are pro-terrorist. I for one think law enforcement is too corrupt, has too much slack to get away with illegal use of power and abuse. I think these things are the biggest reason they are counter-productive in their mission. You eliminate those things, and you will see things improve a hundred fold.
    The problem with giving them more flexibility is the fact that they DO abuse that power. You allow the FBI to search library and book purchase records without a warrant, and they start doing it on anyone they choose. You do not take due process away from the citizens. Nobody is saying they aren’t allowed to look at these things or try to accomplish their mission – just do it without infringing and trampling the rights of the people. They MUST continue to go to the courts to ask permission to do this and have JUST CAUSE. Not “just cause they want to.” Just cause because there is good reason to beleive a person may be up to something. And that power should have its own checks and balances.
    I don’t know exactly why sprt. 11th happened, I have my suspicions, but I know Spet. 11th didn’t happen because law enforcement didn’t have blanket coverage to go do whatever they pleased.. And I know giviing them that power will not protect us any better from it happening again. The Patriot Act was a knee jerk reaction and not a thought out response. 4 years now have passed and we still havent thought out anything.
    Why?

  • http://www.insignificantthoughts.com Vinny

    Because half of congress is ramming every bill they can through the congress under the guise of preventing the next 9/11 and because of some strange 9/11 guilt or whatever.

    The other half is sitting on their ass opposing everything and suggesting nothing at all that might help america not get blown up again. The only suggestion coming out of them is “Bush lied, people died.”

    Do you really need to ask why?

  • Sirrios

    Yes, because we cannot know ho to fix something if we aren’t sure what is broken. BushCo needs to take responsibilty for what they did wrong. When they do that, we can begin the proces of fixing things. From there, we can start to refit the things that need refitting. But you cannot do one without the other. People keep requesting information from BushCo and they keep denying it? Why? What are they hiding?
    So yes, I do need to ask why.

  • http://turningwheels.blogspot.com nathalie

    a lot more went wrong leading up to Sept 11 than anything “BushCo” (whatever that means) did. You really think that 7 months created that day? if that’s your position, then you are right– we’ll NEVER know what was really broken. We have to go back years/decades to know what went wrong. It was a systemic breakdown, not the fault of one man and his “Co”.

  • http://www.insignificantthoughts.com Vinny

    Yes, because we cannot know ho to fix something if we aren’t sure what is broken.

    That’s why we had the 9/11 Commission.

    BushCo needs to take responsibilty for what they did wrong.

    I tune out at this point because it’s destined to turn into a stupid back and forth with Sirrios using such enligtening arguments as “Bushco,” “Bush lied,” and various other childish partisanship. Just a piece of advice, though, Sirrios… The planning for 9/11 began in 1996. It didn’t start on 1/1/01 and end on 9/11/01.

  • Durante

    How to Talk to the Police. Every foreigner, hell every American too, should read this carefully. If we are going to be living in a police state we might as well learn how to navigate it.

    Other than supplying your lawful name, address and date of birth, you don’t have to say anything further to the police.

    Know the rules and stick to them very carefully. The cop might break the rules, especially in the NYPD, but if you are clean then you will be out of holding in a day or two at the most, and you will have a very good chance of nailing that cop’s ass to the wall with violations. Maybe even make him lose some pay or destroy his chance for promotion. If enough people hit them where it hurts like that, maybe they will actually start respecting citizens instead of intimidating them.

  • pam

    This is just ridiculous. They go after these people who break no laws, but do nothing with the cookie sellers at ground zero who are breaking the law. Go figure.:roll:

  • Dave

    “I for one think law enforcement is too corrupt, has too much slack to get away with illegal use of power and abuse.”

    I immensely dissagree. There is no way someone who has traveled the world even a little bit could say that about American law enforcement.

  • balbulican

    I think I spotted the line in this story that pissed you off.

    “For nearly two hours Sharma was made to stand on the sidewalk outside a Starbucks.”

    OUTSIDE a Starbucks. For two hours. Denial of Frappucino. That’s inhuman.

  • http://nonannystate.blogspot.com/ The Other Mike S

    I share your outrage. What is sad is that most people will find this behavior acceptable. “He coulda been scopin’ out the next 9/11 attack, you never know”, or some shit like that. As a nation, we are BEGGING our government to trample our rights in the name of safety.

    We’ve become nothing but a nation of shivering, simpering cowards.

  • http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/ Vinny

    It’s getting scary out there. When taking a picture in public is perceived as a crime, you have a problem. This combined with the “flag burning” amendment just rubs me the wrong way.

  • http://nonannystate.blogspot.com/ The Other Mike S

    What, are you trying to have my arteries all burst on the same day?! Are you looking to read a newspaper headline, “Man found dead at computer, jaw clinched, writing about personal freedom”?

    We’re getting OT here, but the flag burning thing just drives me nuts. Daniel over at lobowalk said it perfectly, “A Constitutional amendment to violate the First Amendment . . . Stupid shit.”

    I need to go dream of green fields, chirping birds and babbling brooks….:wink:

  • Sirrios

    These are the very things I am talkimg about Vinny. These are the actions that I have complained about time and time again an get lamblasted about it over at places like mad Mikey’s and Dog Shit. Individual freedoms, invasion of privacy, ridiculous measure being put in place by and for law enforcement that not only do nothing to protect us, but only add confusion and stupidity to the entire situation. It all comes down to one question – are we any safer today than we were on Sept. 10th 2001?

    I say no. And we have had almost 4 years to get safer. It isn’t like the money wasn’t there to do it. Almost 200 billion dollars by itself has been spent on iraq. And all we have to show for it is being made to take our shoes off at the airport and a color coded “threat” system. So, tell me – what has been done? What they did to this man did not make anybody safer. It infringed upon his rights and privacy.

    I think the only thing we are doing is making things safer to do business.

  • http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/ Vinny

    I wouldn’t disagree with you, but I would note that there are no laws in place backing what the police are doing to people for taking pictures anyway. If this were part of some great scheme to suppress rights, you might have a point, but it isn’t. It’s overzealous police officers looking to be the next “I stopped a terrorist attack” hero.

    This “made-up law” problem is not a creation of a government, it’s a failure of a government to rein in the people doing it.

  • Sirrios

    A bigger problem is everytime we talk about limiting or pulling on the reins of our law enforcement officers, those of us sayin this needs to be done are labaled as being “pro-terrorist.” So now you are seeing, Vinny, where our frustration comes in. You are seeing things from our side of the world and feeling what we feel. None of us are on the side of the terrorists because we are against what the Bu$hCo and his GOP necons are trying to do. We are for the freedoms garunateed to us by the US Constitution. And we are willing to take the risks to continue to have those same freedoms instead of giving them up for the sake of “safety.”
    So, the problem still lies with the Big Fish. If they stand idly by and allow these “hero” cops to do this, than they themselves are just as guilty. When the Big Fish say “do what you need to do” and then turn a blind eye to it, iit is then just as much their fault too.

  • http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/ Vinny

    Now?

    Dude, this isn’t recent. I’ve been seeing it forever. Just because I’m a rightwinger doesn’t mean I bow down and lick the feet of W.

    As for your comment, I’d agree. However, there are some true angles to the “pro terrorist” accusation; not everyone that wants to rein in the police wants to do so for altruistic motives, and not every overreach of the law is a horrible injustice that requires the person doing so to be drawn and quartered.

    I do, however, think we need to do a better job of finding the balance, and protecting individual rights. Should the police have more flexibility? Absolutely. Should they be held accountable if they abuse it? Doubly so.

  • Sirrios

    And not everyone who wants to rein in the police are pro-terrorist. I for one think law enforcement is too corrupt, has too much slack to get away with illegal use of power and abuse. I think these things are the biggest reason they are counter-productive in their mission. You eliminate those things, and you will see things improve a hundred fold.
    The problem with giving them more flexibility is the fact that they DO abuse that power. You allow the FBI to search library and book purchase records without a warrant, and they start doing it on anyone they choose. You do not take due process away from the citizens. Nobody is saying they aren’t allowed to look at these things or try to accomplish their mission – just do it without infringing and trampling the rights of the people. They MUST continue to go to the courts to ask permission to do this and have JUST CAUSE. Not “just cause they want to.” Just cause because there is good reason to beleive a person may be up to something. And that power should have its own checks and balances.
    I don’t know exactly why sprt. 11th happened, I have my suspicions, but I know Spet. 11th didn’t happen because law enforcement didn’t have blanket coverage to go do whatever they pleased.. And I know giviing them that power will not protect us any better from it happening again. The Patriot Act was a knee jerk reaction and not a thought out response. 4 years now have passed and we still havent thought out anything.
    Why?

  • http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/ Vinny

    Because half of congress is ramming every bill they can through the congress under the guise of preventing the next 9/11 and because of some strange 9/11 guilt or whatever.

    The other half is sitting on their ass opposing everything and suggesting nothing at all that might help america not get blown up again. The only suggestion coming out of them is “Bush lied, people died.”

    Do you really need to ask why?

  • Sirrios

    Yes, because we cannot know ho to fix something if we aren’t sure what is broken. BushCo needs to take responsibilty for what they did wrong. When they do that, we can begin the proces of fixing things. From there, we can start to refit the things that need refitting. But you cannot do one without the other. People keep requesting information from BushCo and they keep denying it? Why? What are they hiding?
    So yes, I do need to ask why.

  • http://turningwheels.blogspot.com/ nathalie

    a lot more went wrong leading up to Sept 11 than anything “BushCo” (whatever that means) did. You really think that 7 months created that day? if that’s your position, then you are right– we’ll NEVER know what was really broken. We have to go back years/decades to know what went wrong. It was a systemic breakdown, not the fault of one man and his “Co”.

  • http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/ Vinny

    Yes, because we cannot know ho to fix something if we aren’t sure what is broken.

    That’s why we had the 9/11 Commission.

    BushCo needs to take responsibilty for what they did wrong.

    I tune out at this point because it’s destined to turn into a stupid back and forth with Sirrios using such enligtening arguments as “Bushco,” “Bush lied,” and various other childish partisanship. Just a piece of advice, though, Sirrios… The planning for 9/11 began in 1996. It didn’t start on 1/1/01 and end on 9/11/01.

  • Durante

    How to Talk to the Police. Every foreigner, hell every American too, should read this carefully. If we are going to be living in a police state we might as well learn how to navigate it.

    Other than supplying your lawful name, address and date of birth, you don’t have to say anything further to the police.

    Know the rules and stick to them very carefully. The cop might break the rules, especially in the NYPD, but if you are clean then you will be out of holding in a day or two at the most, and you will have a very good chance of nailing that cop’s ass to the wall with violations. Maybe even make him lose some pay or destroy his chance for promotion. If enough people hit them where it hurts like that, maybe they will actually start respecting citizens instead of intimidating them.

  • pam

    This is just ridiculous. They go after these people who break no laws, but do nothing with the cookie sellers at ground zero who are breaking the law. Go figure.:roll:

  • Dave

    “I for one think law enforcement is too corrupt, has too much slack to get away with illegal use of power and abuse.”

    I immensely dissagree. There is no way someone who has traveled the world even a little bit could say that about American law enforcement.