Sep 18 2005
What’s wrong with people?
Flickr user Dan Dickinson is under the impression that wanting to kill terrorists is jingoism. I think that opinion sums up most of the left’s attitude toward fighting back against terrorism.
Truth be told, it’s not all of them, but enough loud vocal ones that the ones who don’t agree can’t seem to get on their own soapboxes.
I don’t know… The title he chose for the picture just really disgusted me, so I shared it.
September 18th, 2005 at 4:42 pm
I never said killing terrorists was jingoistic. I said the sticker was. Can you understand the difference?
September 18th, 2005 at 4:59 pm
You never said it, but the sticker did, and you called the sticker jingoistic.
Let’s not play semantic games here, Dan.
You could always explain the difference between saying the message on a sticker is jingoistic and the message on that very same sticker is not.
I’m all ears.
September 18th, 2005 at 9:25 pm
Vinny, can you please define Jingoism? Based on your post, I have a good idea, but I’d like to really understand what the term means. Thanks.
September 18th, 2005 at 10:25 pm
Basically it means chauvinistic patriotism or nationalism.
So to recap, if you think terrorists should be killed, you’re a jingo. If you don’t, you’re a great open-minded man.
September 19th, 2005 at 1:30 pm
I dunno, I think I get it. There sure as hell are a lot of bandwagon patriots since 2001. Terrorism didn’t start then, but the message the sticker gives is that it did and because they attacked our country we can now hunt them down. The implication being we didn’t have the right to before.
September 19th, 2005 at 10:07 pm
Not qute, Spencer. After all, just because I waited until this year to get a deer-hunting license, that doesn’t mean they weren’t available before, or that I couldn’t have gotten one before.
But as of September 11, 2001, there are a lot more people willing to take out that license, and willing to go and bag their limit.
-cjb-
September 19th, 2005 at 10:57 pm
Actually, I think that’s the point. All of a sudden people give a shit because it was their country and not some “unknown” middle-eastern locale.
September 19th, 2005 at 11:17 pm
That’s not jingoism, it’s fricking awareness.
September 20th, 2005 at 10:00 pm
Awareness based on our own chauvanistic patriotism.
September 20th, 2005 at 10:02 pm
The sticker by itself isn’t chauvinistically nationalistic or chauvinistically patriotic. It’s, at best, vengeful, but that’s about it.
September 20th, 2005 at 10:07 pm
Possibly not… it could be an assumption. But since it invokes 9/11, I’d lean toward bandwagon patriot.
September 20th, 2005 at 10:08 pm
So under what criteria is evoking 9/11 not bandwagon patriotism?
September 20th, 2005 at 10:09 pm
Simply remembering it as a tragedy.
September 20th, 2005 at 10:14 pm
So anyone who feels motivated to lash out at those responsible and not merely weep over it is a bandwagon patriot?
Just trying to understand.
September 20th, 2005 at 10:24 pm
In essence, yes. In said case, assuming they didn’t want to lash out before (which is a pretty safe assumption or the “War on Terror” would have begun long ago due to public outcry of the deaths of innocents), the only difference from the terrorism that came before is that now it’s American lives on American soil—and all of a sudden people care.