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		<title>By: Maureen</title>
		<link>http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/06/28/ive-had-it-with-idiots/#comment-12251</link>
		<dc:creator>Maureen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s hilarious. The thing that kept me laughing the entire time I listened to your recording was the LACK of &quot;already belligerent attitude&quot;. I thought you were actually being short and polite to keep him on there just to prove how long they&#039;ll stall you. I still laugh every time I hear it or read it. My favorite part?

&quot;I called to cancel the account. Helping me would be cancelling the account. Please help me and cancel the account.&quot;

It reminded me of Tom Cruise telling Cuba Gooding Jr., &quot;Help me help you!&quot; Thanks for the laugh, Vinny.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;12251&#039;,&#039;Maureen&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;12251&#039;,&#039;Maureen&#039;,&#039;That\&#039;s hilarious. The thing that kept me laughing the entire time I listened to your recording was the LACK of \&quot;already belligerent attitude\&quot;. I thought you were actually being short and polite to keep him on there just to prove how long they\&#039;ll stall you. I still laugh every time I hear it or read it. My favorite part?\n\n\&quot;I called to cancel the account. Helping me would be cancelling the account. Please help me and cancel the account.\&quot;\n\nIt reminded me of Tom Cruise telling Cuba Gooding Jr., \&quot;Help me help you!\&quot; Thanks for the laugh, Vinny.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s hilarious. The thing that kept me laughing the entire time I listened to your recording was the LACK of &#8220;already belligerent attitude&#8221;. I thought you were actually being short and polite to keep him on there just to prove how long they&#8217;ll stall you. I still laugh every time I hear it or read it. My favorite part?</p>
<p>&#8220;I called to cancel the account. Helping me would be cancelling the account. Please help me and cancel the account.&#8221;</p>
<p>It reminded me of Tom Cruise telling Cuba Gooding Jr., &#8220;Help me help you!&#8221; Thanks for the laugh, Vinny.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12251','Maureen'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12251','Maureen','That\'s hilarious. The thing that kept me laughing the entire time I listened to your recording was the LACK of \&quot;already belligerent attitude\&quot;. I thought you were actually being short and polite to keep him on there just to prove how long they\'ll stall you. I still laugh every time I hear it or read it. My favorite part?\n\n\&quot;I called to cancel the account. Helping me would be cancelling the account. Please help me and cancel the account.\&quot;\n\nIt reminded me of Tom Cruise telling Cuba Gooding Jr., \&quot;Help me help you!\&quot; Thanks for the laugh, Vinny.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Anthony Lemons</title>
		<link>http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/06/28/ive-had-it-with-idiots/#comment-12252</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Lemons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vinny, I just do not get the mentality of some people. I can not, for the life of me, see where some of these people see that you were rude to the AOL rep. You stated, to the point, &quot;I want to cancel my account&quot;. I really do not see where you came off rude. I suppose some are just jealous that you recorded the call and were received by the media. Perhaps you should just ignore the nay sayers, and be happy for what you revealed for the majority who see clearly. Thank you for that. &lt;a href=&quot;http://anthonylemons.blogspot.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://anthonylemons.blogspot.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;12252&#039;,&#039;Anthony Lemons&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;12252&#039;,&#039;Anthony Lemons&#039;,&#039;Vinny, I just do not get the mentality of some people. I can not, for the life of me, see where some of these people see that you were rude to the AOL rep. You stated, to the point, \&quot;I want to cancel my account\&quot;. I really do not see where you came off rude. I suppose some are just jealous that you recorded the call and were received by the media. Perhaps you should just ignore the nay sayers, and be happy for what you revealed for the majority who see clearly. Thank you for that. &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/anthonylemons.blogspot.com\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;http:\/\/anthonylemons.blogspot.com&lt;\/a&gt;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vinny, I just do not get the mentality of some people. I can not, for the life of me, see where some of these people see that you were rude to the AOL rep. You stated, to the point, &#8220;I want to cancel my account&#8221;. I really do not see where you came off rude. I suppose some are just jealous that you recorded the call and were received by the media. Perhaps you should just ignore the nay sayers, and be happy for what you revealed for the majority who see clearly. Thank you for that. <a href="http://anthonylemons.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://anthonylemons.blogspot.com</a>
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12252','Anthony Lemons'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12252','Anthony Lemons','Vinny, I just do not get the mentality of some people. I can not, for the life of me, see where some of these people see that you were rude to the AOL rep. You stated, to the point, \&quot;I want to cancel my account\&quot;. I really do not see where you came off rude. I suppose some are just jealous that you recorded the call and were received by the media. Perhaps you should just ignore the nay sayers, and be happy for what you revealed for the majority who see clearly. Thank you for that. &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/anthonylemons.blogspot.com\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;http:\/\/anthonylemons.blogspot.com&lt;\/a&gt;'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: gordon the magnificent</title>
		<link>http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/06/28/ive-had-it-with-idiots/#comment-12253</link>
		<dc:creator>gordon the magnificent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m on my way to the pharmacy to grab Rob a box of tampons.

BRB.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;12253&#039;,&#039;gordon the magnificent&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;12253&#039;,&#039;gordon the magnificent&#039;,&#039;I\&#039;m on my way to the pharmacy to grab Rob a box of tampons.\n\nBRB.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m on my way to the pharmacy to grab Rob a box of tampons.</p>
<p>BRB.
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		<title>By: Glen</title>
		<link>http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/06/28/ive-had-it-with-idiots/#comment-12254</link>
		<dc:creator>Glen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One important thing that BOTH people seem to have missed: If the account is REALLY showing usage for a user who does not have the software on his computer, then there is the good possibility that the account was hijacked, and is being used by someone else. I don&#039;t know what AOLs policy is on hijacking, but when I worked for an ISP, and we found a case of hijacking, our policy was to  notify the customer by phone as to what is going on, and suspend the account until we hear from the  customer. If we did not hear from the customer in two weeks the account was cancelled, if the customer contacted us, all passwords had to be changed to something that customer had never used before. In either case, if we had not been dealing with an idiot, the account would have been cancelled on that basis alone!!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;12254&#039;,&#039;Glen&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;12254&#039;,&#039;Glen&#039;,&#039;One important thing that BOTH people seem to have missed: If the account is REALLY showing usage for a user who does not have the software on his computer, then there is the good possibility that the account was hijacked, and is being used by someone else. I don\&#039;t know what AOLs policy is on hijacking, but when I worked for an ISP, and we found a case of hijacking, our policy was to  notify the customer by phone as to what is going on, and suspend the account until we hear from the  customer. If we did not hear from the customer in two weeks the account was cancelled, if the customer contacted us, all passwords had to be changed to something that customer had never used before. In either case, if we had not been dealing with an idiot, the account would have been cancelled on that basis alone!!&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One important thing that BOTH people seem to have missed: If the account is REALLY showing usage for a user who does not have the software on his computer, then there is the good possibility that the account was hijacked, and is being used by someone else. I don&#8217;t know what AOLs policy is on hijacking, but when I worked for an ISP, and we found a case of hijacking, our policy was to  notify the customer by phone as to what is going on, and suspend the account until we hear from the  customer. If we did not hear from the customer in two weeks the account was cancelled, if the customer contacted us, all passwords had to be changed to something that customer had never used before. In either case, if we had not been dealing with an idiot, the account would have been cancelled on that basis alone!!
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12254','Glen'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12254','Glen','One important thing that BOTH people seem to have missed: If the account is REALLY showing usage for a user who does not have the software on his computer, then there is the good possibility that the account was hijacked, and is being used by someone else. I don\'t know what AOLs policy is on hijacking, but when I worked for an ISP, and we found a case of hijacking, our policy was to  notify the customer by phone as to what is going on, and suspend the account until we hear from the  customer. If we did not hear from the customer in two weeks the account was cancelled, if the customer contacted us, all passwords had to be changed to something that customer had never used before. In either case, if we had not been dealing with an idiot, the account would have been cancelled on that basis alone!!'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: RKB</title>
		<link>http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/06/28/ive-had-it-with-idiots/#comment-12255</link>
		<dc:creator>RKB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or he was just pulling a number out of his ass. 545 hours in a single month means being logged onto AOL for 18 hours, every day, for thirty days. How likely is that?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;12255&#039;,&#039;RKB&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;12255&#039;,&#039;RKB&#039;,&#039;Or he was just pulling a number out of his ass. 545 hours in a single month means being logged onto AOL for 18 hours, every day, for thirty days. How likely is that?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or he was just pulling a number out of his ass. 545 hours in a single month means being logged onto AOL for 18 hours, every day, for thirty days. How likely is that?
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12255','RKB'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12255','RKB','Or he was just pulling a number out of his ass. 545 hours in a single month means being logged onto AOL for 18 hours, every day, for thirty days. How likely is that?'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/06/28/ive-had-it-with-idiots/#comment-12256</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vinny, you crack me up. :) We don&#039;t agree on many things, but on the whole AOL debacle, I was rooting for you. They&#039;re a festering pustule on the anus of the internet.

Or something like that. :)&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;12256&#039;,&#039;Scott&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;12256&#039;,&#039;Scott&#039;,&#039;Vinny, you crack me up. :) We don\&#039;t agree on many things, but on the whole AOL debacle, I was rooting for you. They\&#039;re a festering pustule on the anus of the internet.\n\nOr something like that. :)&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vinny, you crack me up. <img src='http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  We don&#8217;t agree on many things, but on the whole AOL debacle, I was rooting for you. They&#8217;re a festering pustule on the anus of the internet.</p>
<p>Or something like that. <img src='http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12256','Scott'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12256','Scott','Vinny, you crack me up. :) We don\'t agree on many things, but on the whole AOL debacle, I was rooting for you. They\'re a festering pustule on the anus of the internet.\n\nOr something like that. :)'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a similar experience a while ago. AOL was trying to convince me not to cancel my account. It was a real pain in the neck to get rid of them. I was on the phone for about 40 minutes, my call was transferred all over the place.They still keep calling me...&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;12257&#039;,&#039;Anna&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;12257&#039;,&#039;Anna&#039;,&#039;I had a similar experience a while ago. AOL was trying to convince me not to cancel my account. It was a real pain in the neck to get rid of them. I was on the phone for about 40 minutes, my call was transferred all over the place.They still keep calling me...&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a similar experience a while ago. AOL was trying to convince me not to cancel my account. It was a real pain in the neck to get rid of them. I was on the phone for about 40 minutes, my call was transferred all over the place.They still keep calling me&#8230;
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		<title>By: David Pinero</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Pinero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.betanews.com/article/AOL_Settles_Cancellation_Policy_Dispute/1124905172&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;seen this article&lt;/a&gt; before?  It details quite a bit about what the AOL retention reps have/had to deal with.  The article was composed in wake of their last of several &quot;cancellation&quot; controversies.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;12258&#039;,&#039;David Pinero&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;12258&#039;,&#039;David Pinero&#039;,&#039;Has anyone &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/www.betanews.com\/article\/AOL_Settles_Cancellation_Policy_Dispute\/1124905172\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;seen this article&lt;\/a&gt; before?  It details quite a bit about what the AOL retention reps have\/had to deal with.  The article was composed in wake of their last of several \&quot;cancellation\&quot; controversies.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone <a href="http://www.betanews.com/article/AOL_Settles_Cancellation_Policy_Dispute/1124905172" rel="nofollow">seen this article</a> before?  It details quite a bit about what the AOL retention reps have/had to deal with.  The article was composed in wake of their last of several &#8220;cancellation&#8221; controversies.
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		<title>By: S.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>S.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;belligerent attitude&quot;? By Calmly saying &quot;I wanted to cancel my account.&quot; and NOT justifying it when NOT required?

Me thinks Mr. Zarzueta needs to switch his Kool Aid...

IMO, you were a lot more polite and Professional than most would have been. You didn&#039;t get that guy fired, He did.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;12259&#039;,&#039;S.D.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;12259&#039;,&#039;S.D.&#039;,&#039;\&quot;belligerent attitude\&quot;? By Calmly saying \&quot;I wanted to cancel my account.\&quot; and NOT justifying it when NOT required?\n\nMe thinks Mr. Zarzueta needs to switch his Kool Aid...\n\nIMO, you were a lot more polite and Professional than most would have been. You didn\&#039;t get that guy fired, He did.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;belligerent attitude&#8221;? By Calmly saying &#8220;I wanted to cancel my account.&#8221; and NOT justifying it when NOT required?</p>
<p>Me thinks Mr. Zarzueta needs to switch his Kool Aid&#8230;</p>
<p>IMO, you were a lot more polite and Professional than most would have been. You didn&#8217;t get that guy fired, He did.
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		<title>By: Bonejob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonejob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When i was there they had a minimum saves rate of 50% and yes they did away with that due to the lawsuit but they still required the Retention reps to make a minimum of 3 saves - often managers were required 3 or more stressing the &#039;more&#039; - the info that was sent to vinny highlights aols training in &#039;keep digging&#039; regardless what the cust says - now a good note from friends who still work at aol state their managers have told them now they are only required to do 2 saves attempts and they were told (get this) that they need to focus on being nicer - ummm shouldn&#039;t that be the goal from the get go?  whatever huh?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;12260&#039;,&#039;Bonejob&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;12260&#039;,&#039;Bonejob&#039;,&#039;When i was there they had a minimum saves rate of 50% and yes they did away with that due to the lawsuit but they still required the Retention reps to make a minimum of 3 saves - often managers were required 3 or more stressing the \&#039;more\&#039; - the info that was sent to vinny highlights aols training in \&#039;keep digging\&#039; regardless what the cust says - now a good note from friends who still work at aol state their managers have told them now they are only required to do 2 saves attempts and they were told (get this) that they need to focus on being nicer - ummm shouldn\&#039;t that be the goal from the get go?  whatever huh?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When i was there they had a minimum saves rate of 50% and yes they did away with that due to the lawsuit but they still required the Retention reps to make a minimum of 3 saves &#8211; often managers were required 3 or more stressing the &#8216;more&#8217; &#8211; the info that was sent to vinny highlights aols training in &#8216;keep digging&#8217; regardless what the cust says &#8211; now a good note from friends who still work at aol state their managers have told them now they are only required to do 2 saves attempts and they were told (get this) that they need to focus on being nicer &#8211; ummm shouldn&#8217;t that be the goal from the get go?  whatever huh?
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12260','Bonejob'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12260','Bonejob','When i was there they had a minimum saves rate of 50% and yes they did away with that due to the lawsuit but they still required the Retention reps to make a minimum of 3 saves - often managers were required 3 or more stressing the \'more\' - the info that was sent to vinny highlights aols training in \'keep digging\' regardless what the cust says - now a good note from friends who still work at aol state their managers have told them now they are only required to do 2 saves attempts and they were told (get this) that they need to focus on being nicer - ummm shouldn\'t that be the goal from the get go?  whatever huh?'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: X-AOL Employee</title>
		<link>http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/06/28/ive-had-it-with-idiots/#comment-12261</link>
		<dc:creator>X-AOL Employee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is actually very true, they had a whole campaign on what they called &quot;member advocacy&quot;...they showed videos of an employee on the streets of New York asking them &#039;how friendly was the aol rep you spoke with&#039;...so how did they correct this...employees were required to say the members name no less than 3 times during the phone call (supposedly to create a good relationship during the call) Personally, I NEVER say a persons full name during ANY conversation, it sounds really retarded. Funny thing is, I always got a corrective action for being &quot;too&quot; friendly! But the way I was raised, there is no such thing, especially in customer service.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;12261&#039;,&#039;X-AOL Employee&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;12261&#039;,&#039;X-AOL Employee&#039;,&#039;That is actually very true, they had a whole campaign on what they called \&quot;member advocacy\&quot;...they showed videos of an employee on the streets of New York asking them \&#039;how friendly was the aol rep you spoke with\&#039;...so how did they correct this...employees were required to say the members name no less than 3 times during the phone call (supposedly to create a good relationship during the call) Personally, I NEVER say a persons full name during ANY conversation, it sounds really retarded. Funny thing is, I always got a corrective action for being \&quot;too\&quot; friendly! But the way I was raised, there is no such thing, especially in customer service.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is actually very true, they had a whole campaign on what they called &#8220;member advocacy&#8221;&#8230;they showed videos of an employee on the streets of New York asking them &#8216;how friendly was the aol rep you spoke with&#8217;&#8230;so how did they correct this&#8230;employees were required to say the members name no less than 3 times during the phone call (supposedly to create a good relationship during the call) Personally, I NEVER say a persons full name during ANY conversation, it sounds really retarded. Funny thing is, I always got a corrective action for being &#8220;too&#8221; friendly! But the way I was raised, there is no such thing, especially in customer service.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12261','X-AOL Employee'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12261','X-AOL Employee','That is actually very true, they had a whole campaign on what they called \&quot;member advocacy\&quot;...they showed videos of an employee on the streets of New York asking them \'how friendly was the aol rep you spoke with\'...so how did they correct this...employees were required to say the members name no less than 3 times during the phone call (supposedly to create a good relationship during the call) Personally, I NEVER say a persons full name during ANY conversation, it sounds really retarded. Funny thing is, I always got a corrective action for being \&quot;too\&quot; friendly! But the way I was raised, there is no such thing, especially in customer service.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/06/28/ive-had-it-with-idiots/#comment-12262</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saw your story on a CNN clip: I had this exact conversation with AOL waaay back in 99 or 2000 when cancelling my parents account. I can&#039;t believe they&#039;re still getting away with treating customers this way! And I think the letter you received was completely bogus public relations rubbish - this type of customer treatment is company policy.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;12262&#039;,&#039;Heather&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;12262&#039;,&#039;Heather&#039;,&#039;Saw your story on a CNN clip: I had this exact conversation with AOL waaay back in 99 or 2000 when cancelling my parents account. I can\&#039;t believe they\&#039;re still getting away with treating customers this way! And I think the letter you received was completely bogus public relations rubbish - this type of customer treatment is company policy.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw your story on a CNN clip: I had this exact conversation with AOL waaay back in 99 or 2000 when cancelling my parents account. I can&#8217;t believe they&#8217;re still getting away with treating customers this way! And I think the letter you received was completely bogus public relations rubbish &#8211; this type of customer treatment is company policy.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12262','Heather'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12262','Heather','Saw your story on a CNN clip: I had this exact conversation with AOL waaay back in 99 or 2000 when cancelling my parents account. I can\'t believe they\'re still getting away with treating customers this way! And I think the letter you received was completely bogus public relations rubbish - this type of customer treatment is company policy.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Jessiq</title>
		<link>http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/06/28/ive-had-it-with-idiots/#comment-12263</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessiq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went through this, too.  I didn&#039;t stay as calm and polite though.  I would call and make sure that it is actually canceled because they never actually canceled my account and I had to call back 2 more times.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;12263&#039;,&#039;Jessiq&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;12263&#039;,&#039;Jessiq&#039;,&#039;I went through this, too.  I didn\&#039;t stay as calm and polite though.  I would call and make sure that it is actually canceled because they never actually canceled my account and I had to call back 2 more times.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went through this, too.  I didn&#8217;t stay as calm and polite though.  I would call and make sure that it is actually canceled because they never actually canceled my account and I had to call back 2 more times.
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		<title>By: KonfusionRave</title>
		<link>http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/06/28/ive-had-it-with-idiots/#comment-12264</link>
		<dc:creator>KonfusionRave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is amazing, I saw the clip online and I couldn`t believe the things the rep was saying...  I used to work in tech support (not anymore thank god) and we would never be allowed to try something like that.  The sad thing is the guy was probably just doing what he was forced to do to earn a paycheck, hope he is in a better job like shovelling horse manure without the shovel and gloves...

Big copanies like that try to push everything too far....&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;12264&#039;,&#039;KonfusionRave&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;12264&#039;,&#039;KonfusionRave&#039;,&#039;This is amazing, I saw the clip online and I couldn`t believe the things the rep was saying...  I used to work in tech support (not anymore thank god) and we would never be allowed to try something like that.  The sad thing is the guy was probably just doing what he was forced to do to earn a paycheck, hope he is in a better job like shovelling horse manure without the shovel and gloves...\n\nBig copanies like that try to push everything too far....&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is amazing, I saw the clip online and I couldn`t believe the things the rep was saying&#8230;  I used to work in tech support (not anymore thank god) and we would never be allowed to try something like that.  The sad thing is the guy was probably just doing what he was forced to do to earn a paycheck, hope he is in a better job like shovelling horse manure without the shovel and gloves&#8230;</p>
<p>Big copanies like that try to push everything too far&#8230;.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12264','KonfusionRave'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12264','KonfusionRave','This is amazing, I saw the clip online and I couldn`t believe the things the rep was saying...  I used to work in tech support (not anymore thank god) and we would never be allowed to try something like that.  The sad thing is the guy was probably just doing what he was forced to do to earn a paycheck, hope he is in a better job like shovelling horse manure without the shovel and gloves...\n\nBig copanies like that try to push everything too far....'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Nathalie</title>
		<link>http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/06/28/ive-had-it-with-idiots/#comment-12265</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathalie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OH, this sounds SOOO familiar!!!:roll: I&#039;ve HAD it with &quot;Ao-Hell&quot; (not so official name..:wink:)They tried to keep me as a customers by force too, and p***d 8O:!::mrgreen:me off in some similar way! Thanks for recording this and making sure people know about it! If I treated MY customers like that, I would run out of business... :x
And ..yeah, a little sorry for the guy getting fired, especially since I wonder if they are being trained that way... But as you stated... he brought it on himself.. BTW... do not mind the mindless pple writing... the rude one was HIM, I wouldn&#039;t stay so calm dealing with this kind of customer service... or lack thereof..&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;12265&#039;,&#039;Nathalie&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;12265&#039;,&#039;Nathalie&#039;,&#039;OH, this sounds SOOO familiar!!!:roll: I\&#039;ve HAD it with \&quot;Ao-Hell\&quot; (not so official name..:wink:)They tried to keep me as a customers by force too, and p***d 8O:!::mrgreen:me off in some similar way! Thanks for recording this and making sure people know about it! If I treated MY customers like that, I would run out of business... :x\nAnd ..yeah, a little sorry for the guy getting fired, especially since I wonder if they are being trained that way... But as you stated... he brought it on himself.. BTW... do not mind the mindless pple writing... the rude one was HIM, I wouldn\&#039;t stay so calm dealing with this kind of customer service... or lack thereof..&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH, this sounds SOOO familiar!!!:roll: I&#8217;ve HAD it with &#8220;Ao-Hell&#8221; (not so official name..:wink:)They tried to keep me as a customers by force too, and p***d 8O:!::mrgreen:me off in some similar way! Thanks for recording this and making sure people know about it! If I treated MY customers like that, I would run out of business&#8230; <img src='http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif' alt=':x' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
And ..yeah, a little sorry for the guy getting fired, especially since I wonder if they are being trained that way&#8230; But as you stated&#8230; he brought it on himself.. BTW&#8230; do not mind the mindless pple writing&#8230; the rude one was HIM, I wouldn&#8217;t stay so calm dealing with this kind of customer service&#8230; or lack thereof..
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12265','Nathalie'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12265','Nathalie','OH, this sounds SOOO familiar!!!:roll: I\'ve HAD it with \&quot;Ao-Hell\&quot; (not so official name..:wink:)They tried to keep me as a customers by force too, and p***d 8O:!::mrgreen:me off in some similar way! Thanks for recording this and making sure people know about it! If I treated MY customers like that, I would run out of business... :x\nAnd ..yeah, a little sorry for the guy getting fired, especially since I wonder if they are being trained that way... But as you stated... he brought it on himself.. BTW... do not mind the mindless pple writing... the rude one was HIM, I wouldn\'t stay so calm dealing with this kind of customer service... or lack thereof..'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Requis De La Morcha Xavier the XV</title>
		<link>http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/06/28/ive-had-it-with-idiots/#comment-12266</link>
		<dc:creator>Requis De La Morcha Xavier the XV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s funny that your &quot;popsferrari&quot; account is signed on all the time.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;12266&#039;,&#039;Requis De La Morcha Xavier the XV&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;12266&#039;,&#039;Requis De La Morcha Xavier the XV&#039;,&#039;I think it\&#039;s funny that your \&quot;popsferrari\&quot; account is signed on all the time.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s funny that your &#8220;popsferrari&#8221; account is signed on all the time.
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		<title>By: Tony Hunter</title>
		<link>http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/06/28/ive-had-it-with-idiots/#comment-12267</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesnt get any easier in the UK. I almost had to be institutionalised after cancelling my AOL account. Wish I recorded it now...&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;12267&#039;,&#039;Tony Hunter&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;12267&#039;,&#039;Tony Hunter&#039;,&#039;It doesnt get any easier in the UK. I almost had to be institutionalised after cancelling my AOL account. Wish I recorded it now...&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesnt get any easier in the UK. I almost had to be institutionalised after cancelling my AOL account. Wish I recorded it now&#8230;
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		<title>By: The Neo Side</title>
		<link>http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/06/28/ive-had-it-with-idiots/#comment-12268</link>
		<dc:creator>The Neo Side</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God! I though this kind of things only happened with the ISP in Spain! My own father had it with his, and needed several calls to the company, two fax sended petitions and the threat of a lawsuit...&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;12268&#039;,&#039;The Neo Side&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;12268&#039;,&#039;The Neo Side&#039;,&#039;God! I though this kind of things only happened with the ISP in Spain! My own father had it with his, and needed several calls to the company, two fax sended petitions and the threat of a lawsuit...&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God! I though this kind of things only happened with the ISP in Spain! My own father had it with his, and needed several calls to the company, two fax sended petitions and the threat of a lawsuit&#8230;
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		<title>By: Peter Almanetti</title>
		<link>http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/06/28/ive-had-it-with-idiots/#comment-12269</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Almanetti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vincent - You&#039;ve done a HUGE service to consumers everywhere, not just AOLers or recovering AOLers. The idea itself, not to mention the extent to which the story has quickly spread, should make all corporate customer service managers shake til they bleed. What AOL does borders on extortion, and it&#039;s way overdue that they should suffer for it.

The tactics aren&#039;t unique to AOL; they&#039;re just the rudest and the crudest. (Any organization having a *separate* number to call for cancellations acts the same way and maintains a similar scumbag army.) Don&#039;t feel even an ounce of guilt about the guy losing his job. You could not have been more polite; and he had to have known, on accepting the position, that he&#039;d be entering a volatile, inhumane, self-destructive, anti-consumer occupation where his days would be spent preying on human weakness and his own dignity would be worthless. So any pouting from either him or AOL is laughably inappropriate -- like the protests of a schoolyard bully whose minions have turned against him.

I cancelled my own AOL account successfully some years ago, but only after hearing the horror stories and then fabricating an elaborate lie (about long-term employment in a remote part of the world). I hated doing that, but it worked. It still took almost 30 minutes, and I wasn&#039;t nearly as civil or composed as you. Thanks again.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;12269&#039;,&#039;Peter Almanetti&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;12269&#039;,&#039;Peter Almanetti&#039;,&#039;Vincent - You\&#039;ve done a HUGE service to consumers everywhere, not just AOLers or recovering AOLers. The idea itself, not to mention the extent to which the story has quickly spread, should make all corporate customer service managers shake til they bleed. What AOL does borders on extortion, and it\&#039;s way overdue that they should suffer for it.\n\nThe tactics aren\&#039;t unique to AOL; they\&#039;re just the rudest and the crudest. (Any organization having a *separate* number to call for cancellations acts the same way and maintains a similar scumbag army.) Don\&#039;t feel even an ounce of guilt about the guy losing his job. You could not have been more polite; and he had to have known, on accepting the position, that he\&#039;d be entering a volatile, inhumane, self-destructive, anti-consumer occupation where his days would be spent preying on human weakness and his own dignity would be worthless. So any pouting from either him or AOL is laughably inappropriate -- like the protests of a schoolyard bully whose minions have turned against him.\n\nI cancelled my own AOL account successfully some years ago, but only after hearing the horror stories and then fabricating an elaborate lie (about long-term employment in a remote part of the world). I hated doing that, but it worked. It still took almost 30 minutes, and I wasn\&#039;t nearly as civil or composed as you. Thanks again.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vincent &#8211; You&#8217;ve done a HUGE service to consumers everywhere, not just AOLers or recovering AOLers. The idea itself, not to mention the extent to which the story has quickly spread, should make all corporate customer service managers shake til they bleed. What AOL does borders on extortion, and it&#8217;s way overdue that they should suffer for it.</p>
<p>The tactics aren&#8217;t unique to AOL; they&#8217;re just the rudest and the crudest. (Any organization having a *separate* number to call for cancellations acts the same way and maintains a similar scumbag army.) Don&#8217;t feel even an ounce of guilt about the guy losing his job. You could not have been more polite; and he had to have known, on accepting the position, that he&#8217;d be entering a volatile, inhumane, self-destructive, anti-consumer occupation where his days would be spent preying on human weakness and his own dignity would be worthless. So any pouting from either him or AOL is laughably inappropriate &#8212; like the protests of a schoolyard bully whose minions have turned against him.</p>
<p>I cancelled my own AOL account successfully some years ago, but only after hearing the horror stories and then fabricating an elaborate lie (about long-term employment in a remote part of the world). I hated doing that, but it worked. It still took almost 30 minutes, and I wasn&#8217;t nearly as civil or composed as you. Thanks again.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12269','Peter Almanetti'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12269','Peter Almanetti','Vincent - You\'ve done a HUGE service to consumers everywhere, not just AOLers or recovering AOLers. The idea itself, not to mention the extent to which the story has quickly spread, should make all corporate customer service managers shake til they bleed. What AOL does borders on extortion, and it\'s way overdue that they should suffer for it.\n\nThe tactics aren\'t unique to AOL; they\'re just the rudest and the crudest. (Any organization having a *separate* number to call for cancellations acts the same way and maintains a similar scumbag army.) Don\'t feel even an ounce of guilt about the guy losing his job. You could not have been more polite; and he had to have known, on accepting the position, that he\'d be entering a volatile, inhumane, self-destructive, anti-consumer occupation where his days would be spent preying on human weakness and his own dignity would be worthless. So any pouting from either him or AOL is laughably inappropriate -- like the protests of a schoolyard bully whose minions have turned against him.\n\nI cancelled my own AOL account successfully some years ago, but only after hearing the horror stories and then fabricating an elaborate lie (about long-term employment in a remote part of the world). I hated doing that, but it worked. It still took almost 30 minutes, and I wasn\'t nearly as civil or composed as you. Thanks again.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<dc:creator>Koliedrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stumbleupon brought me here indirectly and I found it interesting enough to stop for an hour or so in order to rubberneck at the antics. It&#039;s a shame that there&#039;s a blogger war going on in the sidelines but I suppose that&#039;s the nature of the beast. In fact, that&#039;s precisely why I&#039;m at both this site and Zazueta&#039;s simultaneously. From this perspective I&#039;m able to be bipartisan.

The only reason I&#039;m posting here is that I&#039;m fairly sure both parties will view it eventually.

Vinny, 

You did something many of us have wanted to do for a long time. You had the balls to just go ahead and do it by posting it for the world. Long ago (once it dawned on me that &quot;...this phonecall may be recorded...&quot; worked both ways), I paid a visit to my local Radio Shack and did much of the same for personal records.  My recordings differ only in that they&#039;re meant to be a sort of adio receipt (if you will) of a transaction. I wonder now how a company would react to my asking, &quot;before we begin this conversation, I&#039;d like a copy of the recording once this transaction is copleted&quot;. 

While listening to the recording, I can honestly say that I would have reacted in much the same way as you did. Please note that since my recordings are NOT meant for publication, my interractions with CSRs are strictly representations of my personality and are not influenced by premeditated publication whatsoever. 

You broke balls that needed breaking and for that, WE thank you.

Bob,

First of all, sincere condolences regarding your child. My wife and I have been there. Unfortunately, there is no subtle way to add that news to your blog without it seeming like a reach for sympathy. As well spoken as you and Vince are, you both seem to focus only on yourselves regardless of the moment or the situation (as far as this topic is concerned). References to your experiences with Smart Mobs and the obvious decline of the phenomenon had me feeling sympathetic briefly but I also felt sorry for BetaMax engineers. What they did was wonderful but they moved on and many made wonderful technological advancements with their experiences. 

Although I understand your point (predetermined recording meant for the blog), I also understand that blogging in and of itself requires content that&#039;s worth the time of the reader and an open invitation for others to critique your thoughts and actions. Your header says it all: &quot;Narcissism at its finest&quot;.

This is not about the AOL recording. This is about &quot;pay attention to ME&quot; and you are both equally guilty of nacissism. Vince just happens to have done something that more people applaud at the moment. I include myself in that category.

I think think you guys would garner a few more months of fame if you contacted each other, shook hands and thought seriously about a collaboratorve effort. You already have blogging in common. That&#039;s a start.

Best of luck to you both.

Kol&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;12270&#039;,&#039;Koliedrus&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;12270&#039;,&#039;Koliedrus&#039;,&#039;Stumbleupon brought me here indirectly and I found it interesting enough to stop for an hour or so in order to rubberneck at the antics. It\&#039;s a shame that there\&#039;s a blogger war going on in the sidelines but I suppose that\&#039;s the nature of the beast. In fact, that\&#039;s precisely why I\&#039;m at both this site and Zazueta\&#039;s simultaneously. From this perspective I\&#039;m able to be bipartisan.\n\nThe only reason I\&#039;m posting here is that I\&#039;m fairly sure both parties will view it eventually.\n\nVinny, \n\nYou did something many of us have wanted to do for a long time. You had the balls to just go ahead and do it by posting it for the world. Long ago (once it dawned on me that \&quot;...this phonecall may be recorded...\&quot; worked both ways), I paid a visit to my local Radio Shack and did much of the same for personal records.  My recordings differ only in that they\&#039;re meant to be a sort of adio receipt (if you will) of a transaction. I wonder now how a company would react to my asking, \&quot;before we begin this conversation, I\&#039;d like a copy of the recording once this transaction is copleted\&quot;. \n\nWhile listening to the recording, I can honestly say that I would have reacted in much the same way as you did. Please note that since my recordings are NOT meant for publication, my interractions with CSRs are strictly representations of my personality and are not influenced by premeditated publication whatsoever. \n\nYou broke balls that needed breaking and for that, WE thank you.\n\nBob,\n\nFirst of all, sincere condolences regarding your child. My wife and I have been there. Unfortunately, there is no subtle way to add that news to your blog without it seeming like a reach for sympathy. As well spoken as you and Vince are, you both seem to focus only on yourselves regardless of the moment or the situation (as far as this topic is concerned). References to your experiences with Smart Mobs and the obvious decline of the phenomenon had me feeling sympathetic briefly but I also felt sorry for BetaMax engineers. What they did was wonderful but they moved on and many made wonderful technological advancements with their experiences. \n\nAlthough I understand your point (predetermined recording meant for the blog), I also understand that blogging in and of itself requires content that\&#039;s worth the time of the reader and an open invitation for others to critique your thoughts and actions. Your header says it all: \&quot;Narcissism at its finest\&quot;.\n\nThis is not about the AOL recording. This is about \&quot;pay attention to ME\&quot; and you are both equally guilty of nacissism. Vince just happens to have done something that more people applaud at the moment. I include myself in that category.\n\nI think think you guys would garner a few more months of fame if you contacted each other, shook hands and thought seriously about a collaboratorve effort. You already have blogging in common. That\&#039;s a start.\n\nBest of luck to you both.\n\nKol&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stumbleupon brought me here indirectly and I found it interesting enough to stop for an hour or so in order to rubberneck at the antics. It&#8217;s a shame that there&#8217;s a blogger war going on in the sidelines but I suppose that&#8217;s the nature of the beast. In fact, that&#8217;s precisely why I&#8217;m at both this site and Zazueta&#8217;s simultaneously. From this perspective I&#8217;m able to be bipartisan.</p>
<p>The only reason I&#8217;m posting here is that I&#8217;m fairly sure both parties will view it eventually.</p>
<p>Vinny, </p>
<p>You did something many of us have wanted to do for a long time. You had the balls to just go ahead and do it by posting it for the world. Long ago (once it dawned on me that &#8220;&#8230;this phonecall may be recorded&#8230;&#8221; worked both ways), I paid a visit to my local Radio Shack and did much of the same for personal records.  My recordings differ only in that they&#8217;re meant to be a sort of adio receipt (if you will) of a transaction. I wonder now how a company would react to my asking, &#8220;before we begin this conversation, I&#8217;d like a copy of the recording once this transaction is copleted&#8221;. </p>
<p>While listening to the recording, I can honestly say that I would have reacted in much the same way as you did. Please note that since my recordings are NOT meant for publication, my interractions with CSRs are strictly representations of my personality and are not influenced by premeditated publication whatsoever. </p>
<p>You broke balls that needed breaking and for that, WE thank you.</p>
<p>Bob,</p>
<p>First of all, sincere condolences regarding your child. My wife and I have been there. Unfortunately, there is no subtle way to add that news to your blog without it seeming like a reach for sympathy. As well spoken as you and Vince are, you both seem to focus only on yourselves regardless of the moment or the situation (as far as this topic is concerned). References to your experiences with Smart Mobs and the obvious decline of the phenomenon had me feeling sympathetic briefly but I also felt sorry for BetaMax engineers. What they did was wonderful but they moved on and many made wonderful technological advancements with their experiences. </p>
<p>Although I understand your point (predetermined recording meant for the blog), I also understand that blogging in and of itself requires content that&#8217;s worth the time of the reader and an open invitation for others to critique your thoughts and actions. Your header says it all: &#8220;Narcissism at its finest&#8221;.</p>
<p>This is not about the AOL recording. This is about &#8220;pay attention to ME&#8221; and you are both equally guilty of nacissism. Vince just happens to have done something that more people applaud at the moment. I include myself in that category.</p>
<p>I think think you guys would garner a few more months of fame if you contacted each other, shook hands and thought seriously about a collaboratorve effort. You already have blogging in common. That&#8217;s a start.</p>
<p>Best of luck to you both.</p>
<p>Kol
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12270','Koliedrus'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12270','Koliedrus','Stumbleupon brought me here indirectly and I found it interesting enough to stop for an hour or so in order to rubberneck at the antics. It\'s a shame that there\'s a blogger war going on in the sidelines but I suppose that\'s the nature of the beast. In fact, that\'s precisely why I\'m at both this site and Zazueta\'s simultaneously. From this perspective I\'m able to be bipartisan.\n\nThe only reason I\'m posting here is that I\'m fairly sure both parties will view it eventually.\n\nVinny, \n\nYou did something many of us have wanted to do for a long time. You had the balls to just go ahead and do it by posting it for the world. Long ago (once it dawned on me that \&quot;...this phonecall may be recorded...\&quot; worked both ways), I paid a visit to my local Radio Shack and did much of the same for personal records.  My recordings differ only in that they\'re meant to be a sort of adio receipt (if you will) of a transaction. I wonder now how a company would react to my asking, \&quot;before we begin this conversation, I\'d like a copy of the recording once this transaction is copleted\&quot;. \n\nWhile listening to the recording, I can honestly say that I would have reacted in much the same way as you did. Please note that since my recordings are NOT meant for publication, my interractions with CSRs are strictly representations of my personality and are not influenced by premeditated publication whatsoever. \n\nYou broke balls that needed breaking and for that, WE thank you.\n\nBob,\n\nFirst of all, sincere condolences regarding your child. My wife and I have been there. Unfortunately, there is no subtle way to add that news to your blog without it seeming like a reach for sympathy. As well spoken as you and Vince are, you both seem to focus only on yourselves regardless of the moment or the situation (as far as this topic is concerned). References to your experiences with Smart Mobs and the obvious decline of the phenomenon had me feeling sympathetic briefly but I also felt sorry for BetaMax engineers. What they did was wonderful but they moved on and many made wonderful technological advancements with their experiences. \n\nAlthough I understand your point (predetermined recording meant for the blog), I also understand that blogging in and of itself requires content that\'s worth the time of the reader and an open invitation for others to critique your thoughts and actions. Your header says it all: \&quot;Narcissism at its finest\&quot;.\n\nThis is not about the AOL recording. This is about \&quot;pay attention to ME\&quot; and you are both equally guilty of nacissism. Vince just happens to have done something that more people applaud at the moment. I include myself in that category.\n\nI think think you guys would garner a few more months of fame if you contacted each other, shook hands and thought seriously about a collaboratorve effort. You already have blogging in common. That\'s a start.\n\nBest of luck to you both.\n\nKol'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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