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	<title>Comments on: I&#8217;ve Had it With Idiots</title>
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		<title>By: Elise</title>
		<link>http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/06/28/ive-had-it-with-idiots/#comment-190938</link>
		<dc:creator>Elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2006 21:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vincent, I am proud of you. You exposed AOL&#039;s Customer Care and Retention Departments for what they really are. I know many former AOL employees and truth be told, the company does not have a real cancellations department. When you attempt to cancel your account you are routed to the Retention department and they are required to attempt to retain you as a customer by offering free months of service, free upgrades, and various other &quot;benefits and incentives.&quot; I have cancelled at least 15 AOL accounts in my time and I have never been as nice or patient as you were on the phone with the rep you were speaking with. Furthermore, I have had to request that the call be escalated to supervisors to have the cancellation request processed. Companies like AOL and Sprint are especially difficult to deal with because whenever you call in, regardless of what you are calling for, the reps are required to make sales or retention attempts on the call. What happened to simple customer service? Why can&#039;t you call to ask a question without being asked to upgrade your service? I think the experience you had and the negative publicity is going to cause a lot of consumers to start thinking harder about their interactions with customer care and support reps. I hope consumers will get wise and either take their money elsewhere or fight for changes in the companies they give their money to. You&#039;ve done a great service to consumers all over the world by outing AOL&#039;s retention department for what it is -- a tremendous hassle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vincent, I am proud of you. You exposed AOL&#8217;s Customer Care and Retention Departments for what they really are. I know many former AOL employees and truth be told, the company does not have a real cancellations department. When you attempt to cancel your account you are routed to the Retention department and they are required to attempt to retain you as a customer by offering free months of service, free upgrades, and various other &#8220;benefits and incentives.&#8221; I have cancelled at least 15 AOL accounts in my time and I have never been as nice or patient as you were on the phone with the rep you were speaking with. Furthermore, I have had to request that the call be escalated to supervisors to have the cancellation request processed. Companies like AOL and Sprint are especially difficult to deal with because whenever you call in, regardless of what you are calling for, the reps are required to make sales or retention attempts on the call. What happened to simple customer service? Why can&#8217;t you call to ask a question without being asked to upgrade your service? I think the experience you had and the negative publicity is going to cause a lot of consumers to start thinking harder about their interactions with customer care and support reps. I hope consumers will get wise and either take their money elsewhere or fight for changes in the companies they give their money to. You&#8217;ve done a great service to consumers all over the world by outing AOL&#8217;s retention department for what it is &#8212; a tremendous hassle.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Reece</title>
		<link>http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/06/28/ive-had-it-with-idiots/#comment-190937</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Reece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 14:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Throughout high school (class of &#039;89) and college I&#039;ve worked in many CS related positions.  Now as a contract programmer I rely on those skills as a tool of my trade.

Simply put...
Customer service has become a thing of the past.  So much so that people (myself included) have become numb to realizing that whatever service they have paid for (Internet related or not - buying groceries for example) is usually accompanied by poor to out right rude responses if any customer service is needed.

For this very reason, I (and I would like to believe others) will frequent the companies who are striving to bring the &quot;customer&quot; part back to &quot;customer service&quot;.  We should not reward those companies with our continued business if we feel as though we (customers) are looked upon as statistics and dollar signs rather than human beings who work hard for the earned dollar we are spending with them.

AOL (as I&#039;ve read) has no excuse for allowing any policies that do not put the customer first.  This of course would be true for all companies.

If the customer would like to give a reason for canceling a service or returning a product, then that is their prerogative.  Otherwise the customer should ALWAYS come first if for only the simple reason that they may come back as customers, not to mention it&#039;s just the right thing to do!

Vinny should be commended for what he has done and others should follow his example, who knows we may be able to breathe life back into customer service yet!

Thanks Vinny and remember, if you stir the pot for something you believe in there will always be those who want to tell you you&#039;re not stirring correctly.

We should all think about where our values really should be.

Thx 4 listening,
Scott Reece</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Throughout high school (class of &#8217;89) and college I&#8217;ve worked in many CS related positions.  Now as a contract programmer I rely on those skills as a tool of my trade.</p>
<p>Simply put&#8230;<br />
Customer service has become a thing of the past.  So much so that people (myself included) have become numb to realizing that whatever service they have paid for (Internet related or not &#8211; buying groceries for example) is usually accompanied by poor to out right rude responses if any customer service is needed.</p>
<p>For this very reason, I (and I would like to believe others) will frequent the companies who are striving to bring the &#8220;customer&#8221; part back to &#8220;customer service&#8221;.  We should not reward those companies with our continued business if we feel as though we (customers) are looked upon as statistics and dollar signs rather than human beings who work hard for the earned dollar we are spending with them.</p>
<p>AOL (as I&#8217;ve read) has no excuse for allowing any policies that do not put the customer first.  This of course would be true for all companies.</p>
<p>If the customer would like to give a reason for canceling a service or returning a product, then that is their prerogative.  Otherwise the customer should ALWAYS come first if for only the simple reason that they may come back as customers, not to mention it&#8217;s just the right thing to do!</p>
<p>Vinny should be commended for what he has done and others should follow his example, who knows we may be able to breathe life back into customer service yet!</p>
<p>Thanks Vinny and remember, if you stir the pot for something you believe in there will always be those who want to tell you you&#8217;re not stirring correctly.</p>
<p>We should all think about where our values really should be.</p>
<p>Thx 4 listening,<br />
Scott Reece</p>
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		<title>By: Koliedrus</title>
		<link>http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/06/28/ive-had-it-with-idiots/#comment-190936</link>
		<dc:creator>Koliedrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 06:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stumbleupon brought me here indirectly and I found it interesting enough to stop for an hour or so in order to rubberneck at the antics. It&#039;s a shame that there&#039;s a blogger war going on in the sidelines but I suppose that&#039;s the nature of the beast. In fact, that&#039;s precisely why I&#039;m at both this site and Zazueta&#039;s simultaneously. From this perspective I&#039;m able to be bipartisan.

The only reason I&#039;m posting here is that I&#039;m fairly sure both parties will view it eventually.

Vinny, 

You did something many of us have wanted to do for a long time. You had the balls to just go ahead and do it by posting it for the world. Long ago (once it dawned on me that &quot;...this phonecall may be recorded...&quot; worked both ways), I paid a visit to my local Radio Shack and did much of the same for personal records.  My recordings differ only in that they&#039;re meant to be a sort of adio receipt (if you will) of a transaction. I wonder now how a company would react to my asking, &quot;before we begin this conversation, I&#039;d like a copy of the recording once this transaction is copleted&quot;. 

While listening to the recording, I can honestly say that I would have reacted in much the same way as you did. Please note that since my recordings are NOT meant for publication, my interractions with CSRs are strictly representations of my personality and are not influenced by premeditated publication whatsoever. 

You broke balls that needed breaking and for that, WE thank you.

Bob,

First of all, sincere condolences regarding your child. My wife and I have been there. Unfortunately, there is no subtle way to add that news to your blog without it seeming like a reach for sympathy. As well spoken as you and Vince are, you both seem to focus only on yourselves regardless of the moment or the situation (as far as this topic is concerned). References to your experiences with Smart Mobs and the obvious decline of the phenomenon had me feeling sympathetic briefly but I also felt sorry for BetaMax engineers. What they did was wonderful but they moved on and many made wonderful technological advancements with their experiences. 

Although I understand your point (predetermined recording meant for the blog), I also understand that blogging in and of itself requires content that&#039;s worth the time of the reader and an open invitation for others to critique your thoughts and actions. Your header says it all: &quot;Narcissism at its finest&quot;.

This is not about the AOL recording. This is about &quot;pay attention to ME&quot; and you are both equally guilty of nacissism. Vince just happens to have done something that more people applaud at the moment. I include myself in that category.

I think think you guys would garner a few more months of fame if you contacted each other, shook hands and thought seriously about a collaboratorve effort. You already have blogging in common. That&#039;s a start.

Best of luck to you both.

Kol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stumbleupon brought me here indirectly and I found it interesting enough to stop for an hour or so in order to rubberneck at the antics. It&#8217;s a shame that there&#8217;s a blogger war going on in the sidelines but I suppose that&#8217;s the nature of the beast. In fact, that&#8217;s precisely why I&#8217;m at both this site and Zazueta&#8217;s simultaneously. From this perspective I&#8217;m able to be bipartisan.</p>
<p>The only reason I&#8217;m posting here is that I&#8217;m fairly sure both parties will view it eventually.</p>
<p>Vinny, </p>
<p>You did something many of us have wanted to do for a long time. You had the balls to just go ahead and do it by posting it for the world. Long ago (once it dawned on me that &#8220;&#8230;this phonecall may be recorded&#8230;&#8221; worked both ways), I paid a visit to my local Radio Shack and did much of the same for personal records.  My recordings differ only in that they&#8217;re meant to be a sort of adio receipt (if you will) of a transaction. I wonder now how a company would react to my asking, &#8220;before we begin this conversation, I&#8217;d like a copy of the recording once this transaction is copleted&#8221;. </p>
<p>While listening to the recording, I can honestly say that I would have reacted in much the same way as you did. Please note that since my recordings are NOT meant for publication, my interractions with CSRs are strictly representations of my personality and are not influenced by premeditated publication whatsoever. </p>
<p>You broke balls that needed breaking and for that, WE thank you.</p>
<p>Bob,</p>
<p>First of all, sincere condolences regarding your child. My wife and I have been there. Unfortunately, there is no subtle way to add that news to your blog without it seeming like a reach for sympathy. As well spoken as you and Vince are, you both seem to focus only on yourselves regardless of the moment or the situation (as far as this topic is concerned). References to your experiences with Smart Mobs and the obvious decline of the phenomenon had me feeling sympathetic briefly but I also felt sorry for BetaMax engineers. What they did was wonderful but they moved on and many made wonderful technological advancements with their experiences. </p>
<p>Although I understand your point (predetermined recording meant for the blog), I also understand that blogging in and of itself requires content that&#8217;s worth the time of the reader and an open invitation for others to critique your thoughts and actions. Your header says it all: &#8220;Narcissism at its finest&#8221;.</p>
<p>This is not about the AOL recording. This is about &#8220;pay attention to ME&#8221; and you are both equally guilty of nacissism. Vince just happens to have done something that more people applaud at the moment. I include myself in that category.</p>
<p>I think think you guys would garner a few more months of fame if you contacted each other, shook hands and thought seriously about a collaboratorve effort. You already have blogging in common. That&#8217;s a start.</p>
<p>Best of luck to you both.</p>
<p>Kol</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Almanetti</title>
		<link>http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/06/28/ive-had-it-with-idiots/#comment-190935</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Almanetti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 05:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vincent - You&#039;ve done a HUGE service to consumers everywhere, not just AOLers or recovering AOLers. The idea itself, not to mention the extent to which the story has quickly spread, should make all corporate customer service managers shake til they bleed. What AOL does borders on extortion, and it&#039;s way overdue that they should suffer for it.

The tactics aren&#039;t unique to AOL; they&#039;re just the rudest and the crudest. (Any organization having a *separate* number to call for cancellations acts the same way and maintains a similar scumbag army.) Don&#039;t feel even an ounce of guilt about the guy losing his job. You could not have been more polite; and he had to have known, on accepting the position, that he&#039;d be entering a volatile, inhumane, self-destructive, anti-consumer occupation where his days would be spent preying on human weakness and his own dignity would be worthless. So any pouting from either him or AOL is laughably inappropriate -- like the protests of a schoolyard bully whose minions have turned against him.

I cancelled my own AOL account successfully some years ago, but only after hearing the horror stories and then fabricating an elaborate lie (about long-term employment in a remote part of the world). I hated doing that, but it worked. It still took almost 30 minutes, and I wasn&#039;t nearly as civil or composed as you. Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vincent &#8211; You&#8217;ve done a HUGE service to consumers everywhere, not just AOLers or recovering AOLers. The idea itself, not to mention the extent to which the story has quickly spread, should make all corporate customer service managers shake til they bleed. What AOL does borders on extortion, and it&#8217;s way overdue that they should suffer for it.</p>
<p>The tactics aren&#8217;t unique to AOL; they&#8217;re just the rudest and the crudest. (Any organization having a *separate* number to call for cancellations acts the same way and maintains a similar scumbag army.) Don&#8217;t feel even an ounce of guilt about the guy losing his job. You could not have been more polite; and he had to have known, on accepting the position, that he&#8217;d be entering a volatile, inhumane, self-destructive, anti-consumer occupation where his days would be spent preying on human weakness and his own dignity would be worthless. So any pouting from either him or AOL is laughably inappropriate &#8212; like the protests of a schoolyard bully whose minions have turned against him.</p>
<p>I cancelled my own AOL account successfully some years ago, but only after hearing the horror stories and then fabricating an elaborate lie (about long-term employment in a remote part of the world). I hated doing that, but it worked. It still took almost 30 minutes, and I wasn&#8217;t nearly as civil or composed as you. Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: The Neo Side</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Neo Side</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 03:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God! I though this kind of things only happened with the ISP in Spain! My own father had it with his, and needed several calls to the company, two fax sended petitions and the threat of a lawsuit...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God! I though this kind of things only happened with the ISP in Spain! My own father had it with his, and needed several calls to the company, two fax sended petitions and the threat of a lawsuit&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Hunter</title>
		<link>http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/06/28/ive-had-it-with-idiots/#comment-190933</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 04:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesnt get any easier in the UK. I almost had to be institutionalised after cancelling my AOL account. Wish I recorded it now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesnt get any easier in the UK. I almost had to be institutionalised after cancelling my AOL account. Wish I recorded it now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Requis De La Morcha Xavier the</title>
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		<dc:creator>Requis De La Morcha Xavier the</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jul 2006 03:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s funny that your &quot;popsferrari&quot; account is signed on all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s funny that your &#8220;popsferrari&#8221; account is signed on all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathalie</title>
		<link>http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/06/28/ive-had-it-with-idiots/#comment-190931</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathalie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OH, this sounds SOOO familiar!!!:roll: I&#039;ve HAD it with &quot;Ao-Hell&quot; (not so official name..:wink:)They tried to keep me as a customers by force too, and p***d 8O:!::mrgreen:me off in some similar way! Thanks for recording this and making sure people know about it! If I treated MY customers like that, I would run out of business... :x
And ..yeah, a little sorry for the guy getting fired, especially since I wonder if they are being trained that way... But as you stated... he brought it on himself.. BTW... do not mind the mindless pple writing... the rude one was HIM, I wouldn&#039;t stay so calm dealing with this kind of customer service... or lack thereof..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH, this sounds SOOO familiar!!!:roll: I&#8217;ve HAD it with &#8220;Ao-Hell&#8221; (not so official name..:wink:)They tried to keep me as a customers by force too, and p***d 8O:!::mrgreen:me off in some similar way! Thanks for recording this and making sure people know about it! If I treated MY customers like that, I would run out of business&#8230; <img src='http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif' alt=':x' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
And ..yeah, a little sorry for the guy getting fired, especially since I wonder if they are being trained that way&#8230; But as you stated&#8230; he brought it on himself.. BTW&#8230; do not mind the mindless pple writing&#8230; the rude one was HIM, I wouldn&#8217;t stay so calm dealing with this kind of customer service&#8230; or lack thereof..</p>
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		<title>By: KonfusionRave</title>
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		<dc:creator>KonfusionRave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is amazing, I saw the clip online and I couldn`t believe the things the rep was saying...  I used to work in tech support (not anymore thank god) and we would never be allowed to try something like that.  The sad thing is the guy was probably just doing what he was forced to do to earn a paycheck, hope he is in a better job like shovelling horse manure without the shovel and gloves...

Big copanies like that try to push everything too far....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is amazing, I saw the clip online and I couldn`t believe the things the rep was saying&#8230;  I used to work in tech support (not anymore thank god) and we would never be allowed to try something like that.  The sad thing is the guy was probably just doing what he was forced to do to earn a paycheck, hope he is in a better job like shovelling horse manure without the shovel and gloves&#8230;</p>
<p>Big copanies like that try to push everything too far&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessiq</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessiq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 08:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went through this, too.  I didn&#039;t stay as calm and polite though.  I would call and make sure that it is actually canceled because they never actually canceled my account and I had to call back 2 more times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went through this, too.  I didn&#8217;t stay as calm and polite though.  I would call and make sure that it is actually canceled because they never actually canceled my account and I had to call back 2 more times.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/06/28/ive-had-it-with-idiots/#comment-190928</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 01:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saw your story on a CNN clip: I had this exact conversation with AOL waaay back in 99 or 2000 when cancelling my parents account. I can&#039;t believe they&#039;re still getting away with treating customers this way! And I think the letter you received was completely bogus public relations rubbish - this type of customer treatment is company policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw your story on a CNN clip: I had this exact conversation with AOL waaay back in 99 or 2000 when cancelling my parents account. I can&#8217;t believe they&#8217;re still getting away with treating customers this way! And I think the letter you received was completely bogus public relations rubbish &#8211; this type of customer treatment is company policy.</p>
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		<title>By: X-AOL Employee</title>
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		<dc:creator>X-AOL Employee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is actually very true, they had a whole campaign on what they called &quot;member advocacy&quot;...they showed videos of an employee on the streets of New York asking them &#039;how friendly was the aol rep you spoke with&#039;...so how did they correct this...employees were required to say the members name no less than 3 times during the phone call (supposedly to create a good relationship during the call) Personally, I NEVER say a persons full name during ANY conversation, it sounds really retarded. Funny thing is, I always got a corrective action for being &quot;too&quot; friendly! But the way I was raised, there is no such thing, especially in customer service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is actually very true, they had a whole campaign on what they called &#8220;member advocacy&#8221;&#8230;they showed videos of an employee on the streets of New York asking them &#8216;how friendly was the aol rep you spoke with&#8217;&#8230;so how did they correct this&#8230;employees were required to say the members name no less than 3 times during the phone call (supposedly to create a good relationship during the call) Personally, I NEVER say a persons full name during ANY conversation, it sounds really retarded. Funny thing is, I always got a corrective action for being &#8220;too&#8221; friendly! But the way I was raised, there is no such thing, especially in customer service.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonejob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonejob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When i was there they had a minimum saves rate of 50% and yes they did away with that due to the lawsuit but they still required the Retention reps to make a minimum of 3 saves - often managers were required 3 or more stressing the &#039;more&#039; - the info that was sent to vinny highlights aols training in &#039;keep digging&#039; regardless what the cust says - now a good note from friends who still work at aol state their managers have told them now they are only required to do 2 saves attempts and they were told (get this) that they need to focus on being nicer - ummm shouldn&#039;t that be the goal from the get go?  whatever huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When i was there they had a minimum saves rate of 50% and yes they did away with that due to the lawsuit but they still required the Retention reps to make a minimum of 3 saves &#8211; often managers were required 3 or more stressing the &#8216;more&#8217; &#8211; the info that was sent to vinny highlights aols training in &#8216;keep digging&#8217; regardless what the cust says &#8211; now a good note from friends who still work at aol state their managers have told them now they are only required to do 2 saves attempts and they were told (get this) that they need to focus on being nicer &#8211; ummm shouldn&#8217;t that be the goal from the get go?  whatever huh?</p>
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		<title>By: S.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>S.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 12:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;belligerent attitude&quot;? By Calmly saying &quot;I wanted to cancel my account.&quot; and NOT justifying it when NOT required?

Me thinks Mr. Zarzueta needs to switch his Kool Aid...

IMO, you were a lot more polite and Professional than most would have been. You didn&#039;t get that guy fired, He did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;belligerent attitude&#8221;? By Calmly saying &#8220;I wanted to cancel my account.&#8221; and NOT justifying it when NOT required?</p>
<p>Me thinks Mr. Zarzueta needs to switch his Kool Aid&#8230;</p>
<p>IMO, you were a lot more polite and Professional than most would have been. You didn&#8217;t get that guy fired, He did.</p>
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		<title>By: David Pinero</title>
		<link>http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/06/28/ive-had-it-with-idiots/#comment-190924</link>
		<dc:creator>David Pinero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 12:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.betanews.com/article/AOL_Settles_Cancellation_Policy_Dispute/1124905172&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;seen this article&lt;/a&gt; before?  It details quite a bit about what the AOL retention reps have/had to deal with.  The article was composed in wake of their last of several &quot;cancellation&quot; controversies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone <a href="http://www.betanews.com/article/AOL_Settles_Cancellation_Policy_Dispute/1124905172" rel="nofollow">seen this article</a> before?  It details quite a bit about what the AOL retention reps have/had to deal with.  The article was composed in wake of their last of several &#8220;cancellation&#8221; controversies.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/06/28/ive-had-it-with-idiots/#comment-190923</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 10:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a similar experience a while ago. AOL was trying to convince me not to cancel my account. It was a real pain in the neck to get rid of them. I was on the phone for about 40 minutes, my call was transferred all over the place.They still keep calling me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a similar experience a while ago. AOL was trying to convince me not to cancel my account. It was a real pain in the neck to get rid of them. I was on the phone for about 40 minutes, my call was transferred all over the place.They still keep calling me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/06/28/ive-had-it-with-idiots/#comment-190922</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 10:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vinny, you crack me up. :) We don&#039;t agree on many things, but on the whole AOL debacle, I was rooting for you. They&#039;re a festering pustule on the anus of the internet.

Or something like that. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vinny, you crack me up. <img src='http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  We don&#8217;t agree on many things, but on the whole AOL debacle, I was rooting for you. They&#8217;re a festering pustule on the anus of the internet.</p>
<p>Or something like that. <img src='http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: RKB</title>
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		<dc:creator>RKB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 07:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or he was just pulling a number out of his ass. 545 hours in a single month means being logged onto AOL for 18 hours, every day, for thirty days. How likely is that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or he was just pulling a number out of his ass. 545 hours in a single month means being logged onto AOL for 18 hours, every day, for thirty days. How likely is that?</p>
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		<title>By: Glen</title>
		<link>http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/06/28/ive-had-it-with-idiots/#comment-190920</link>
		<dc:creator>Glen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 07:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One important thing that BOTH people seem to have missed: If the account is REALLY showing usage for a user who does not have the software on his computer, then there is the good possibility that the account was hijacked, and is being used by someone else. I don&#039;t know what AOLs policy is on hijacking, but when I worked for an ISP, and we found a case of hijacking, our policy was to  notify the customer by phone as to what is going on, and suspend the account until we hear from the  customer. If we did not hear from the customer in two weeks the account was cancelled, if the customer contacted us, all passwords had to be changed to something that customer had never used before. In either case, if we had not been dealing with an idiot, the account would have been cancelled on that basis alone!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One important thing that BOTH people seem to have missed: If the account is REALLY showing usage for a user who does not have the software on his computer, then there is the good possibility that the account was hijacked, and is being used by someone else. I don&#8217;t know what AOLs policy is on hijacking, but when I worked for an ISP, and we found a case of hijacking, our policy was to  notify the customer by phone as to what is going on, and suspend the account until we hear from the  customer. If we did not hear from the customer in two weeks the account was cancelled, if the customer contacted us, all passwords had to be changed to something that customer had never used before. In either case, if we had not been dealing with an idiot, the account would have been cancelled on that basis alone!!</p>
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		<title>By: gordon the magnificent</title>
		<link>http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/06/28/ive-had-it-with-idiots/#comment-190919</link>
		<dc:creator>gordon the magnificent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 05:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m on my way to the pharmacy to grab Rob a box of tampons.

BRB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m on my way to the pharmacy to grab Rob a box of tampons.</p>
<p>BRB.</p>
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