Comments on: Overly Sensitive? http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/10/01/overly-sensitive/ kthxbai Thu, 18 Mar 2010 12:56:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Liberal Grace http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/10/01/overly-sensitive/#comment-12938 Liberal Grace Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=2829#comment-12938 Are you honestly missing the noxiousness of this? What made this talking point so appalling is the cruelty of it. Duckworth had her legs amputated and will never run again. Couldn't Roskam have come up with some less callous way to phrase it than "cut and run"? It also, of course, highlights the fact that she honorably served while he stayed at home and watched the war on Fox. This <em>does</em> give her some moral authority, in my mind. Conservatives used to respect military service but something happened with that along the way.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12938','Liberal Grace'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12938','Liberal Grace','Are you honestly missing the noxiousness of this?\n\nWhat made this talking point so appalling is the cruelty of it. Duckworth had her legs amputated and will never run again. Couldn\'t Roskam have come up with some less callous way to phrase it than \"cut and run\"?\n\nIt also, of course, highlights the fact that she honorably served while he stayed at home and watched the war on Fox. This <em>does<\/em> give her some moral authority, in my mind. Conservatives used to respect military service but something happened with that along the way.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Are you honestly missing the noxiousness of this?

What made this talking point so appalling is the cruelty of it. Duckworth had her legs amputated and will never run again. Couldn’t Roskam have come up with some less callous way to phrase it than “cut and run”?

It also, of course, highlights the fact that she honorably served while he stayed at home and watched the war on Fox. This does give her some moral authority, in my mind. Conservatives used to respect military service but something happened with that along the way.

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]]> By: Vinny http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/10/01/overly-sensitive/#comment-12939 Vinny Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=2829#comment-12939 Thanks for proving my point. Since she served, she is incapable of of being criticized about her views on Iraq, the war, or her strategy for fighting it because if you do question her, you're unpatriotic. I guess the Dems don't have a monopoly on that "don't criticize us" argument.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12939','Vinny'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12939','Vinny','Thanks for proving my point. Since she served, she is incapable of of being criticized about her views on Iraq, the war, or her strategy for fighting it because if you do question her, you\'re unpatriotic.\n\nI guess the Dems don\'t have a monopoly on that \"don\'t criticize us\" argument.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Thanks for proving my point. Since she served, she is incapable of of being criticized about her views on Iraq, the war, or her strategy for fighting it because if you do question her, you’re unpatriotic.

I guess the Dems don’t have a monopoly on that “don’t criticize us” argument.

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]]> By: Vinny http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/10/01/overly-sensitive/#comment-12940 Vinny Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=2829#comment-12940 Oh, and just for the record: 1. No one is talking about her military service, only her Iraq plan. 2. Yes she'll never run again. Does that mean she can't run for office, run to the store, run a campaign, or have the runs? Stop it. Your overly sensitive platitudes crack me up. It amazes me how much you guys need a bogeyman. If she has a good record, she'll run on it and win. If people have a good idea of what she stands for, they'll vote for her. Frankly, this whole "cut and run" issue is stupid and anyone pushing it is just plain looking for something to be offended over.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12940','Vinny'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12940','Vinny','Oh, and just for the record:\n\n1. No one is talking about her military service, only her Iraq plan.\n\n2. Yes she\'ll never run again. Does that mean she can\'t run for office, run to the store, run a campaign, or have the runs?\n\nStop it. Your overly sensitive platitudes crack me up. It amazes me how much you guys need a bogeyman.\n\nIf she has a good record, she\'ll run on it and win. If people have a good idea of what she stands for, they\'ll vote for her.\n\nFrankly, this whole \"cut and run\" issue is stupid and anyone pushing it is just plain looking for something to be offended over.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Oh, and just for the record:

1. No one is talking about her military service, only her Iraq plan.

2. Yes she’ll never run again. Does that mean she can’t run for office, run to the store, run a campaign, or have the runs?

Stop it. Your overly sensitive platitudes crack me up. It amazes me how much you guys need a bogeyman.

If she has a good record, she’ll run on it and win. If people have a good idea of what she stands for, they’ll vote for her.

Frankly, this whole “cut and run” issue is stupid and anyone pushing it is just plain looking for something to be offended over.

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]]> By: Liberal Grace http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/10/01/overly-sensitive/#comment-12941 Liberal Grace Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=2829#comment-12941 Calling a veteran who's had both legs amputated in service to her country a "cut an runner" in the very war she served in, is just being a callous jerk. One need not be over-sensitive to see that. I dYou'd have to be highly INSENSITIVE to not see it. By the way: How is this is a typical Democrat talking point? >>The typical Democrat talking point that everyone is allowed to question those in power, but no one is allowed to question the questioners. Ever. Period. You're just making that up about us. Do you have any quotes or links where Democrats have said that? If it is one of our talking points, you surely must have dozens of links. You've based the whole premise of your post on something very few liberals believe. Here's what most of we liberals really believe: active service in the military or in a war gives extra credibility to what that veteran says about war. For example, John McCain who HAS been tortured as a POW has more credibility than Rumsfeld who sat the war out. Does that mean I don't question McCain? Of course not! I doubt I'd vote for him but I will always repect him when he speaks about torture, war, veterans issues, etc. No only CAN veterans be questioned or challenged... they SHOULD be. But respecting the fact that they served and they were there. It's so ironic that we liberals now argue with conservatives that they should respect the vets.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12941','Liberal Grace'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12941','Liberal Grace','Calling a veteran who\'s had both legs amputated in service to her country a \"cut an runner\" in the very war she served in, is just being a callous jerk. \n\nOne need not be over-sensitive to see that. I dYou\'d have to be highly INSENSITIVE to not see it. \n\nBy the way:\n\nHow is this is a typical Democrat talking point? \n\n>>The typical Democrat talking point that everyone is allowed to question those in power, but no one is allowed to question the questioners. Ever. Period. \n\nYou\'re just making that up about us. \n\nDo you have any quotes or links where Democrats have said that? If it is one of our talking points, you surely must have dozens of links. \n\nYou\'ve based the whole premise of your post on something very few liberals believe.\n\nHere\'s what most of we liberals really believe: active service in the military or in a war gives extra credibility to what that veteran says about war.\n\nFor example, John McCain who HAS been tortured as a POW has more credibility than Rumsfeld who sat the war out. Does that mean I don\'t question McCain? Of course not! I doubt I\'d vote for him but I will always repect him when he speaks about torture, war, veterans issues, etc.\n\nNo only CAN veterans be questioned or challenged... they SHOULD be. But respecting the fact that they served and they were there. \n\nIt\'s so ironic that we liberals now argue with conservatives that they should respect the vets.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Calling a veteran who’s had both legs amputated in service to her country a “cut an runner” in the very war she served in, is just being a callous jerk.

One need not be over-sensitive to see that. I dYou’d have to be highly INSENSITIVE to not see it.

By the way:

How is this is a typical Democrat talking point?

>>The typical Democrat talking point that everyone is allowed to question those in power, but no one is allowed to question the questioners. Ever. Period.

You’re just making that up about us.

Do you have any quotes or links where Democrats have said that? If it is one of our talking points, you surely must have dozens of links.

You’ve based the whole premise of your post on something very few liberals believe.

Here’s what most of we liberals really believe: active service in the military or in a war gives extra credibility to what that veteran says about war.

For example, John McCain who HAS been tortured as a POW has more credibility than Rumsfeld who sat the war out. Does that mean I don’t question McCain? Of course not! I doubt I’d vote for him but I will always repect him when he speaks about torture, war, veterans issues, etc.

No only CAN veterans be questioned or challenged… they SHOULD be. But respecting the fact that they served and they were there.

It’s so ironic that we liberals now argue with conservatives that they should respect the vets.

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]]> By: Vinny http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2006/10/01/overly-sensitive/#comment-12942 Vinny Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/?p=2829#comment-12942 You, my friend, are a joke. I gave numerous examples in my post. Kristen Breitweiser. Cindy Sheehan. Tammy Duckworth. John Kerry. Cutting and Running means cutting your losses and leaving a war. I don't really see why everyone runs from the term (sorry, let me rephrase that according to Duckworth's disability so as not to offend?). <blockquote>But respecting the fact that they served and they were there.</blockquote> This isn't about her service you blind idiot. This is about her opponent's view of her plan <strong>now</strong>. The fact that you haul out her service and use that as a call for respect even though her service has nothing to do with her plan really proves that you're just following along with the mentality I clearly explained early. Don't question what she wants to do in Iraq because she served there! Give me a break. You guys need a bogeyman really bad and this one is really easy and convenient. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12942','Vinny'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12942','Vinny','You, my friend, are a joke.\n\nI gave numerous examples in my post. Kristen Breitweiser. Cindy Sheehan. Tammy Duckworth. John Kerry.\n\nCutting and Running means cutting your losses and leaving a war. I don\'t really see why everyone runs from the term (sorry, let me rephrase that according to Duckworth\'s disability so as not to offend?).\n\n<blockquote>But respecting the fact that they served and they were there.<\/blockquote>\n\nThis isn\'t about her service you blind idiot. This is about her opponent\'s view of her plan <strong>now<\/strong>. The fact that you haul out her service and use that as a call for respect even though her service has nothing to do with her plan really proves that you\'re just following along with the mentality I clearly explained early.\n\nDon\'t question what she wants to do in Iraq because she served there!\n\nGive me a break.\n\nYou guys need a bogeyman really bad and this one is really easy and convenient.\n'); return false;">Quote</a></div> You, my friend, are a joke.

I gave numerous examples in my post. Kristen Breitweiser. Cindy Sheehan. Tammy Duckworth. John Kerry.

Cutting and Running means cutting your losses and leaving a war. I don’t really see why everyone runs from the term (sorry, let me rephrase that according to Duckworth’s disability so as not to offend?).

But respecting the fact that they served and they were there.

This isn’t about her service you blind idiot. This is about her opponent’s view of her plan now. The fact that you haul out her service and use that as a call for respect even though her service has nothing to do with her plan really proves that you’re just following along with the mentality I clearly explained early.

Don’t question what she wants to do in Iraq because she served there!

Give me a break.

You guys need a bogeyman really bad and this one is really easy and convenient.

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