Free Speech Loses

The Westboro Baptist Church is loaded with hateful scumbags. I’ve bumped into a few of them in my life and there’s very little about them that you could possibly like unless you yourself were a hateful scumbag. They’re run by a kook who thinks God “hates” everyone from fags to soldiers to the United States. They’re perpetually explaining why you’re going to hell. They don’t usually tell you they’ll pray for you, instead choosing to remind you of how much they hate you.
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In other words, scum.

That being said, this ruling is flat out wrong:

Washington, DC) Judicial Watch, the public interest group promotes transparency, accountability and integrity in government, politics and the law, announced today that a U.S. District Court in Missouri denied a request by the American Civil Liberties Union lawyers made on behalf of a member of the Westboro Baptist Church to prevent the state from enforcing its statute limiting protests “in or about” the location of funeral services (Shirley L. Phelps-Roper v. Jeremiah W. Nixon, et al., No. 06-cv-4156-FJG). The ACLU filed a lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the law on behalf of protesters who disrupted military funerals by picketing and conducting other protest activities.

The court order, issued by federal Judge Fernando J. Gaitan, Jr., essentially adopts Judicial Watch’s argument that Missouri’s “funeral protection law” is well-grounded in Eighth Circuit judicial precedent and is consistent with the U.S. Constitution. Moreover, Judge Gaitan specifically cites Judicial Watch’s amicus brief concerning the right of family members and friends of those killed in battle to mourn their loss. The judge writes: “…amicus Judicial Watch notes that Missouri also has an interest in protecting funeral attendees’ First Amendment rights to free exercise of religion.” Judge Gaitan ruled that the ACLU’s client failed to demonstrate a “likelihood of success on the merits” of her arguments. Her request for a preliminary injunction was, therefore, denied.

There’s so much in those two paragraphs that’s just flat-out wrong, but what really tweaks me is the gist of it. Namely that military funerals are all of a sudden protected above others and that suddenly the right of free protest can be abridged simply because it’s a military funeral.

What the hell, folks? It gets worst as the rhetoric starts flinging around fast and furious:

“We’re pleased the court seems to recognize the right of funeral attendees to mourn those who died defending our country without being disrupted by protesters,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “Unlike the ACLU, most Americans believe that mourners should be able to engage in quiet and reflective prayer at funerals. As the court noted, ‘…picketing soldiers’ funerals and belittling the sacrifices made by soldiers are intolerable actions…’”

Holy crap, where to begin. Okay…

I believe people have a right to mourn all they want. I believe that people should honor the fact that a funeral is sacred and off-limits. That being said, the idea that a court chose to define military funerals specifically as off-limits bothers me. I don’t disagree with Tom Fitton that most Americans do believe that mourners should be able to engage in quiet prayer, etc., but I don’t believe that most Americans, if they got over the initial gut reaction to the story, would ever even consider making the courts step in and protect funerals from protest.

In this country, we have a right to protest and assembling for those purposes is a guarantee granted to us first among all others. Where the Court errs here is that it seems to say that since the content of the speech is offensive to some, it’s restrictable. I have a real problem with that not only for the idea itself, but for the precedent it sets.

Free speech exists for one purpose and one purpose only; to allow the free airing of unpopular speech and ideas. The idea of freedom of speech is that if you want to say something unpopular, you don’t have to worry about someone persecuting you for it. Of course there are limits on free speech (the old cliche’ fire in a crowded theatre line), but if you think about it, this is nothing like that.

There’s no public harm in a group of wacked-out bigots protesting a funeral. Will they upset people? Of course; that’s their modus operandi. But we can’t start halting protests because the content of those protests would make people feel bad, regardless of the target of those protests. While I find the protesting of slain soldiers to be a detestable and horrible way for anyone calling themselves a “church” to act, I can’t for the life of me bring myself to cheer over this decision because it amounts to the government now setting themselves up as the arbiter of the content of protests.

To say that makes me uncomfortable would be an understatement.

I don’t care for Phelps and his clan of merry loons, but they do have a constitutional right to do what they’re doing. The precedent this sets is terrifying, and frankly all the right wingers puffing out their chests over this decision are quite sickening.

via Judicial Watch

[tags]westboro baptist church, aclu, protest, funerals, judicial watch[/tags]

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  • Margie Phelps

    Just so you know, those two men in the photo with this story are not members of or associated with Westboro Baptist Church. Their signs are OK, but too weak. The signs should say, on the topics, they’re addressing, “Graham Hates God,” and “Graham is Headed to Hell,” and “Thank God for Katrina,” and “Thank God for the Tsunamis.” All of God’s righteous judgments are perfect by definition — whether humans like them or not. It is the duty of every human to thank God for everything He does.

    Further, this apostate rebellious filthy nation and generation have begged to be punished by God, and the only righteous thing at this hour is for Him to pour His wrath out on them. Hence our signs, “Thank God for 911,” “Thank God for IEDs,” and “Thank God for Dead Soldiers.” Sosdom and the antedelluvian world would rise up in protest if God didn’t harshly punish this nation and generation.

    As for our COUNTER-protests at the political patriotic pep rallies being held shamelessly outside the buildings where funerals of dead soldiers are about to start — IF YOU DON’T WANT TO HEAR OR SEE OUR WORDS, SHUT UP AND GO INSIDE. If this nation is shamelessly using the funerals of its young people — whom God is sending home in body bags for THEIR SINS — as another occasion to blaspheme God, flip off God, thump their chests at God demanding He bless them, and to worship dead bodies (more of their grotesque idolatery). As long as they do that, we’re going to use the SAME public platform which they’ve created, to warn them. Our signs say “Just Cursed, Not Blessed,” because it should be obvious to everyone that having your child come home in little pieces in a body bag is NOT a blessing. It doesn’t matter how many angry, bitter, still-looking-for-their-lost-glory (which they lost for their God-awful actions in Viet Nam, etc.) bikers rev their engines, wave their flags, cuss and threaten us, or chant “God bless the [dead soldier, fill in the name],” 1) the soldier is still in hell — that’s not a blessing, and 2) God’s wrath is still pouring out on this nation, most notably on the field of the battle that he duped that bombastic big mouth bastard Bush into getting us into — which is a curse!

    These fools in the legislative and judicial branches are delusional thinking they have the pour to shut these words up. They might as well put forth a decree canceling the Great and Terrible Day of Judgment. They might as well order that hell be abolished. They might as well pass a resolution that no more IEDs may go off in Iraq. They might as well put forth a law decrying the needs of humans for oxygen to breath. They might as well issue an injunction ordering that all the dead body parts be put back together and the dead soldier come back to life. You arrogant asses — when God shows some lingering kindness to a people by sending His prophets with his decrees and oracles, NOTHING is going to shut them up. Your foolish laws and judicial decrees amount to shuffling chairs on the deck of the Titanic. This nation is doomed! The siege is coming. You’re going to eat your babies! Get a clue you foolish beasts!

    You’ve raised full generations teaching them God is a liar, it’s OK to be gay, they should fornicate by 14 or be thought of as a freak, divorce and remarry at LEAST three times (which Christ calls adultery), be greedy, be selfish, worship the creature, find everything in this world to turn into an idol you possibly can, live for the devil — then run your big mouth about God loving everybody (the biggest lie every told!) and what YOU think. Look at the spoiled selfish lazy brats you’re sending onto the battle field. Perverts and beasts. No wonder God is smiting them! You rebels think you can ignore your duty to God and institutionalize sin and brag about it, and God isn’t going to deal with you? You’re crazy!

    You americans are just amazing. You blah, blah, blah, burp, fart, gag, blah, about your freedoms, your christianity, your bravery, your super-power status, etc. But you can’t see with your blind dumb eyes that God is kicking your ass through dirt-poor insurgents, and by making you a stink in the nostrils of most of the nations around the world. It never once crosses your sloped brows to JUST OBEY. If you stop institutionalizing and glorying in your sin, God would stop punishing you. But you won’t. Your “conscience” called your Supreme Court has decreed that we must respect filthy feces-eating fags, and all you pundits and big mouths sat back and said, “OK — slurp, slurp, that makes me feel righteous, give me more!” It’s too late for america! This nation is doomed! You’ve crossed the line with God! You’ve sinned away your last day of grace!

    None of you, from your youngest school child, to your highest leaders, are CAPABLE of any right or decent decision or words. You’re corrupt and lost! So shut up and obey! God has cursed you; He’s blinded you; He’s stopped up your ears; He’s hardened your hearts; He’s sent you delusions; He’s reduced you to stumbling around like drunken freaks vomiting filth all over the land. And you all act like you’ve got something to be proud of! Please!

    Magormissabib.

    Margie Phelps

  • http://www.futuregringo.com james

    Margie if America sucks and is going to hell, then why wouldn’t you prefer to live in a country where the consequences of such actions are dealt with more appropriately? Such as Nigeria or Iran

    http://www.sodomylaws.org/world/nigeria/ninews016.htm
    http://www.irinnews.org/report.asp?ReportID=48274#

    I agree with the premise we shouldn’t be creating such compartmentalized laws simply to pacify people bothered by the likes of our heros above. Fortunately as with many issues the problem breeds a solution. With despicable wretches like the Phelps comes honorable citizens like the riders of the Patriot Guard, should your loved ones military funeral ever necessitate them.

    http://www.patriotguard.org/

    p.s. Margie and crew WHY on earth are you so obsessed with bodily fluids, namely semen and feces? Christ my nights watching CSI and porn has less bodily fluid talk then your interviews and diatribes.

  • Margie Phelps

    Just so you know, those two men in the photo with this story are not members of or associated with Westboro Baptist Church. Their signs are OK, but too weak. The signs should say, on the topics, they’re addressing, “Graham Hates God,” and “Graham is Headed to Hell,” and “Thank God for Katrina,” and “Thank God for the Tsunamis.” All of God’s righteous judgments are perfect by definition — whether humans like them or not. It is the duty of every human to thank God for everything He does.

    Further, this apostate rebellious filthy nation and generation have begged to be punished by God, and the only righteous thing at this hour is for Him to pour His wrath out on them. Hence our signs, “Thank God for 911,” “Thank God for IEDs,” and “Thank God for Dead Soldiers.” Sosdom and the antedelluvian world would rise up in protest if God didn’t harshly punish this nation and generation.

    As for our COUNTER-protests at the political patriotic pep rallies being held shamelessly outside the buildings where funerals of dead soldiers are about to start — IF YOU DON’T WANT TO HEAR OR SEE OUR WORDS, SHUT UP AND GO INSIDE. If this nation is shamelessly using the funerals of its young people — whom God is sending home in body bags for THEIR SINS — as another occasion to blaspheme God, flip off God, thump their chests at God demanding He bless them, and to worship dead bodies (more of their grotesque idolatery). As long as they do that, we’re going to use the SAME public platform which they’ve created, to warn them. Our signs say “Just Cursed, Not Blessed,” because it should be obvious to everyone that having your child come home in little pieces in a body bag is NOT a blessing. It doesn’t matter how many angry, bitter, still-looking-for-their-lost-glory (which they lost for their God-awful actions in Viet Nam, etc.) bikers rev their engines, wave their flags, cuss and threaten us, or chant “God bless the [dead soldier, fill in the name],” 1) the soldier is still in hell — that’s not a blessing, and 2) God’s wrath is still pouring out on this nation, most notably on the field of the battle that he duped that bombastic big mouth bastard Bush into getting us into — which is a curse!

    These fools in the legislative and judicial branches are delusional thinking they have the pour to shut these words up. They might as well put forth a decree canceling the Great and Terrible Day of Judgment. They might as well order that hell be abolished. They might as well pass a resolution that no more IEDs may go off in Iraq. They might as well put forth a law decrying the needs of humans for oxygen to breath. They might as well issue an injunction ordering that all the dead body parts be put back together and the dead soldier come back to life. You arrogant asses — when God shows some lingering kindness to a people by sending His prophets with his decrees and oracles, NOTHING is going to shut them up. Your foolish laws and judicial decrees amount to shuffling chairs on the deck of the Titanic. This nation is doomed! The siege is coming. You’re going to eat your babies! Get a clue you foolish beasts!

    You’ve raised full generations teaching them God is a liar, it’s OK to be gay, they should fornicate by 14 or be thought of as a freak, divorce and remarry at LEAST three times (which Christ calls adultery), be greedy, be selfish, worship the creature, find everything in this world to turn into an idol you possibly can, live for the devil — then run your big mouth about God loving everybody (the biggest lie every told!) and what YOU think. Look at the spoiled selfish lazy brats you’re sending onto the battle field. Perverts and beasts. No wonder God is smiting them! You rebels think you can ignore your duty to God and institutionalize sin and brag about it, and God isn’t going to deal with you? You’re crazy!

    You americans are just amazing. You blah, blah, blah, burp, fart, gag, blah, about your freedoms, your christianity, your bravery, your super-power status, etc. But you can’t see with your blind dumb eyes that God is kicking your ass through dirt-poor insurgents, and by making you a stink in the nostrils of most of the nations around the world. It never once crosses your sloped brows to JUST OBEY. If you stop institutionalizing and glorying in your sin, God would stop punishing you. But you won’t. Your “conscience” called your Supreme Court has decreed that we must respect filthy feces-eating fags, and all you pundits and big mouths sat back and said, “OK — slurp, slurp, that makes me feel righteous, give me more!” It’s too late for america! This nation is doomed! You’ve crossed the line with God! You’ve sinned away your last day of grace!

    None of you, from your youngest school child, to your highest leaders, are CAPABLE of any right or decent decision or words. You’re corrupt and lost! So shut up and obey! God has cursed you; He’s blinded you; He’s stopped up your ears; He’s hardened your hearts; He’s sent you delusions; He’s reduced you to stumbling around like drunken freaks vomiting filth all over the land. And you all act like you’ve got something to be proud of! Please!

    Magormissabib.

    Margie Phelps

  • http://www.futuregringo.com/ james

    Margie if America sucks and is going to hell, then why wouldn’t you prefer to live in a country where the consequences of such actions are dealt with more appropriately? Such as Nigeria or Iran

    http://www.sodomylaws.org/world/nigeria/ninews016.htm
    http://www.irinnews.org/report.asp?ReportID=48274#

    I agree with the premise we shouldn’t be creating such compartmentalized laws simply to pacify people bothered by the likes of our heros above. Fortunately as with many issues the problem breeds a solution. With despicable wretches like the Phelps comes honorable citizens like the riders of the Patriot Guard, should your loved ones military funeral ever necessitate them.

    http://www.patriotguard.org/

    p.s. Margie and crew WHY on earth are you so obsessed with bodily fluids, namely semen and feces? Christ my nights watching CSI and porn has less bodily fluid talk then your interviews and diatribes.