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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2007/03/25/how-hell-froze-over-at-insignificantthoughtscom/#comment-13468</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you.  The hack was ridiculous, and their updates have sucked (I hate the default to wysiwyg editing  on a fresh install, etc.).

Your third point though is from early 2005.  Have they done anything to correct the stupidity since then?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;13468&#039;,&#039;Chris&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;13468&#039;,&#039;Chris&#039;,&#039;I agree with you.  The hack was ridiculous, and their updates have sucked (I hate the default to wysiwyg editing  on a fresh install, etc.).\n\nYour third point though is from early 2005.  Have they done anything to correct the stupidity since then?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you.  The hack was ridiculous, and their updates have sucked (I hate the default to wysiwyg editing  on a fresh install, etc.).</p>
<p>Your third point though is from early 2005.  Have they done anything to correct the stupidity since then?
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13468','Chris'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13468','Chris','I agree with you.  The hack was ridiculous, and their updates have sucked (I hate the default to wysiwyg editing  on a fresh install, etc.).\n\nYour third point though is from early 2005.  Have they done anything to correct the stupidity since then?'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are making me wonder if my own blog should be using something other than Wordpress.  I&#039;m fairly new to the blogoshpere so this was all news to me.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;13469&#039;,&#039;Alan&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;13469&#039;,&#039;Alan&#039;,&#039;You are making me wonder if my own blog should be using something other than Wordpress.  I\&#039;m fairly new to the blogoshpere so this was all news to me.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are making me wonder if my own blog should be using something other than Wordpress.  I&#8217;m fairly new to the blogoshpere so this was all news to me.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13469','Alan'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13469','Alan','You are making me wonder if my own blog should be using something other than Wordpress.  I\'m fairly new to the blogoshpere so this was all news to me.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2007/03/25/how-hell-froze-over-at-insignificantthoughtscom/#comment-13470</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. To my knowledge, we haven&#039;t shipped any software with &quot;broken features&quot; or &quot;non-functioning code&quot;. Since there are so many people using WP (we host 800,000+ of them) that sort of thing gets picked up very quickly. Maybe your friend was referring to a development versions? If you have any first-hand information I&#039;d love to find out more.

Also we didn&#039;t fork the codebase, but as part of our commitment to Debian we&#039;ve promised to keep maintaining the 2.0 branch for security fixes until 2010. We&#039;ve always maintained old versions for about a year, but this is a bit longer. So far it has gone well.

2. While it sucks one of our servers was hacked, I certainly tried to respond to it as quickly and transparently as possible. It wasn&#039;t easy asking everyone to blog about the worst thing that has ever happened to the project. Similar things have happened to other open source projects in the past, including Apache, I don&#039;t think anyone is immune.

3. It&#039;s been over 2 years now since the dumb hotnacho article mistake I made. At the time I didn&#039;t really understand web spam in the broader sense as you describe it, but that&#039;s still no excuse. I don&#039;t think I was let off easy, in fact it was one of the toughest periods of my life, and it happened in the public eye of the blogosphere and mainstream media. In the years since I&#039;ve devoted a lot of my time to Akismet, which is an anti-web-spam service which has blocked over a billion spam comments, trackbacks, signups, wiki edits, and more. (Akismet is platform-agnostic, and in fact is one of the more popular plugins for MT.) We also spend a ton of resources keeping sploggers and spam off WordPress.com, something much bigger players don&#039;t pay as much attention to. I appreciate your forgiveness, but I&#039;d hope my actions since then would speak loader than my words.

Anyway I just wanted to drop my two cents in, I&#039;m sorry my personal actions drove you away from a thriving open source community and I hope if you keep an eye on WordPress we&#039;ll regain your respect in the future.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;13470&#039;,&#039;Matt&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;13470&#039;,&#039;Matt&#039;,&#039;1. To my knowledge, we haven\&#039;t shipped any software with \&quot;broken features\&quot; or \&quot;non-functioning code\&quot;. Since there are so many people using WP (we host 800,000+ of them) that sort of thing gets picked up very quickly. Maybe your friend was referring to a development versions? If you have any first-hand information I\&#039;d love to find out more.\n\nAlso we didn\&#039;t fork the codebase, but as part of our commitment to Debian we\&#039;ve promised to keep maintaining the 2.0 branch for security fixes until 2010. We\&#039;ve always maintained old versions for about a year, but this is a bit longer. So far it has gone well.\n\n2. While it sucks one of our servers was hacked, I certainly tried to respond to it as quickly and transparently as possible. It wasn\&#039;t easy asking everyone to blog about the worst thing that has ever happened to the project. Similar things have happened to other open source projects in the past, including Apache, I don\&#039;t think anyone is immune.\n\n3. It\&#039;s been over 2 years now since the dumb hotnacho article mistake I made. At the time I didn\&#039;t really understand web spam in the broader sense as you describe it, but that\&#039;s still no excuse. I don\&#039;t think I was let off easy, in fact it was one of the toughest periods of my life, and it happened in the public eye of the blogosphere and mainstream media. In the years since I\&#039;ve devoted a lot of my time to Akismet, which is an anti-web-spam service which has blocked over a billion spam comments, trackbacks, signups, wiki edits, and more. (Akismet is platform-agnostic, and in fact is one of the more popular plugins for MT.) We also spend a ton of resources keeping sploggers and spam off WordPress.com, something much bigger players don\&#039;t pay as much attention to. I appreciate your forgiveness, but I\&#039;d hope my actions since then would speak loader than my words.\n\nAnyway I just wanted to drop my two cents in, I\&#039;m sorry my personal actions drove you away from a thriving open source community and I hope if you keep an eye on WordPress we\&#039;ll regain your respect in the future.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. To my knowledge, we haven&#8217;t shipped any software with &#8220;broken features&#8221; or &#8220;non-functioning code&#8221;. Since there are so many people using WP (we host 800,000+ of them) that sort of thing gets picked up very quickly. Maybe your friend was referring to a development versions? If you have any first-hand information I&#8217;d love to find out more.</p>
<p>Also we didn&#8217;t fork the codebase, but as part of our commitment to Debian we&#8217;ve promised to keep maintaining the 2.0 branch for security fixes until 2010. We&#8217;ve always maintained old versions for about a year, but this is a bit longer. So far it has gone well.</p>
<p>2. While it sucks one of our servers was hacked, I certainly tried to respond to it as quickly and transparently as possible. It wasn&#8217;t easy asking everyone to blog about the worst thing that has ever happened to the project. Similar things have happened to other open source projects in the past, including Apache, I don&#8217;t think anyone is immune.</p>
<p>3. It&#8217;s been over 2 years now since the dumb hotnacho article mistake I made. At the time I didn&#8217;t really understand web spam in the broader sense as you describe it, but that&#8217;s still no excuse. I don&#8217;t think I was let off easy, in fact it was one of the toughest periods of my life, and it happened in the public eye of the blogosphere and mainstream media. In the years since I&#8217;ve devoted a lot of my time to Akismet, which is an anti-web-spam service which has blocked over a billion spam comments, trackbacks, signups, wiki edits, and more. (Akismet is platform-agnostic, and in fact is one of the more popular plugins for MT.) We also spend a ton of resources keeping sploggers and spam off WordPress.com, something much bigger players don&#8217;t pay as much attention to. I appreciate your forgiveness, but I&#8217;d hope my actions since then would speak loader than my words.</p>
<p>Anyway I just wanted to drop my two cents in, I&#8217;m sorry my personal actions drove you away from a thriving open source community and I hope if you keep an eye on WordPress we&#8217;ll regain your respect in the future.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13470','Matt'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13470','Matt','1. To my knowledge, we haven\'t shipped any software with \&quot;broken features\&quot; or \&quot;non-functioning code\&quot;. Since there are so many people using WP (we host 800,000+ of them) that sort of thing gets picked up very quickly. Maybe your friend was referring to a development versions? If you have any first-hand information I\'d love to find out more.\n\nAlso we didn\'t fork the codebase, but as part of our commitment to Debian we\'ve promised to keep maintaining the 2.0 branch for security fixes until 2010. We\'ve always maintained old versions for about a year, but this is a bit longer. So far it has gone well.\n\n2. While it sucks one of our servers was hacked, I certainly tried to respond to it as quickly and transparently as possible. It wasn\'t easy asking everyone to blog about the worst thing that has ever happened to the project. Similar things have happened to other open source projects in the past, including Apache, I don\'t think anyone is immune.\n\n3. It\'s been over 2 years now since the dumb hotnacho article mistake I made. At the time I didn\'t really understand web spam in the broader sense as you describe it, but that\'s still no excuse. I don\'t think I was let off easy, in fact it was one of the toughest periods of my life, and it happened in the public eye of the blogosphere and mainstream media. In the years since I\'ve devoted a lot of my time to Akismet, which is an anti-web-spam service which has blocked over a billion spam comments, trackbacks, signups, wiki edits, and more. (Akismet is platform-agnostic, and in fact is one of the more popular plugins for MT.) We also spend a ton of resources keeping sploggers and spam off WordPress.com, something much bigger players don\'t pay as much attention to. I appreciate your forgiveness, but I\'d hope my actions since then would speak loader than my words.\n\nAnyway I just wanted to drop my two cents in, I\'m sorry my personal actions drove you away from a thriving open source community and I hope if you keep an eye on WordPress we\'ll regain your respect in the future.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Vinny</title>
		<link>http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/2007/03/25/how-hell-froze-over-at-insignificantthoughtscom/#comment-13471</link>
		<dc:creator>Vinny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for responding Matt...

1.  The rapid succession of bug fix releases says to me that things are going out the door with problems.

2.  I agree that not everyone is immune, and even said as much.  It&#039;s still unacceptable.  The hard part for me is that not everyone in the WordPress community (particularly end users) is competent enough to do the fixes themselves and I reckon a lot of them don&#039;t even know that these fixes are out there.  Just take a look at how many people didn&#039;t even upgrade to 2.0 let alone 2.11!

3.  I think you were let off easy.  Frankly, I&#039;m very connected to the community.  I own a hosting company and my partner does WordPress layouts.  We both have installed WordPress numerous times both for ourselves and our clients.  Neither one of us heard about this until this weekend, which means that most people probably didn&#039;t even know about it (in fact, read the two comments above yours...).

I don&#039;t think we should flog you in the streets.  WordPress is a great product.  My only problems with it ever were the utterly useless forums where when you ask a question someone calls you a n00b or asks you to kindly read the FAQ or something.  I don&#039;t even have a problem with you in particular.  Really.

I have a problem with what your actions represent.  I&#039;d feel the same way if I found a police officer with a stash of coke in his garage.

Akismet is great (I swear it&#039;s probably the greatest piece of blog plugin software I&#039;ve ever seen and I&#039;m using it with MT, it was one of the first things I installed) but the need for Akismet stems from the disaster of Spam Blogs which WordPress themselves created!!

I&#039;m sorry but I can&#039;t support that.

I wish you all the best, Matt.  I understand that you&#039;ve learned your lesson and like I said earlier, I appreciate your comments here.

Who knows...  Maybe one day WordPress will find its way back into my heart again.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;13471&#039;,&#039;Vinny&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;13471&#039;,&#039;Vinny&#039;,&#039;Thanks for responding Matt...\n\n1.  The rapid succession of bug fix releases says to me that things are going out the door with problems.\n\n2.  I agree that not everyone is immune, and even said as much.  It\&#039;s still unacceptable.  The hard part for me is that not everyone in the WordPress community (particularly end users) is competent enough to do the fixes themselves and I reckon a lot of them don\&#039;t even know that these fixes are out there.  Just take a look at how many people didn\&#039;t even upgrade to 2.0 let alone 2.11!\n\n3.  I think you were let off easy.  Frankly, I\&#039;m very connected to the community.  I own a hosting company and my partner does WordPress layouts.  We both have installed WordPress numerous times both for ourselves and our clients.  Neither one of us heard about this until this weekend, which means that most people probably didn\&#039;t even know about it (in fact, read the two comments above yours...).\n\nI don\&#039;t think we should flog you in the streets.  WordPress is a great product.  My only problems with it ever were the utterly useless forums where when you ask a question someone calls you a n00b or asks you to kindly read the FAQ or something.  I don\&#039;t even have a problem with you in particular.  Really.\n\nI have a problem with what your actions represent.  I\&#039;d feel the same way if I found a police officer with a stash of coke in his garage.\n\nAkismet is great (I swear it\&#039;s probably the greatest piece of blog plugin software I\&#039;ve ever seen and I\&#039;m using it with MT, it was one of the first things I installed) but the need for Akismet stems from the disaster of Spam Blogs which WordPress themselves created!!\n\nI\&#039;m sorry but I can\&#039;t support that.\n\nI wish you all the best, Matt.  I understand that you\&#039;ve learned your lesson and like I said earlier, I appreciate your comments here.\n\nWho knows...  Maybe one day WordPress will find its way back into my heart again.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for responding Matt&#8230;</p>
<p>1.  The rapid succession of bug fix releases says to me that things are going out the door with problems.</p>
<p>2.  I agree that not everyone is immune, and even said as much.  It&#8217;s still unacceptable.  The hard part for me is that not everyone in the WordPress community (particularly end users) is competent enough to do the fixes themselves and I reckon a lot of them don&#8217;t even know that these fixes are out there.  Just take a look at how many people didn&#8217;t even upgrade to 2.0 let alone 2.11!</p>
<p>3.  I think you were let off easy.  Frankly, I&#8217;m very connected to the community.  I own a hosting company and my partner does WordPress layouts.  We both have installed WordPress numerous times both for ourselves and our clients.  Neither one of us heard about this until this weekend, which means that most people probably didn&#8217;t even know about it (in fact, read the two comments above yours&#8230;).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think we should flog you in the streets.  WordPress is a great product.  My only problems with it ever were the utterly useless forums where when you ask a question someone calls you a n00b or asks you to kindly read the FAQ or something.  I don&#8217;t even have a problem with you in particular.  Really.</p>
<p>I have a problem with what your actions represent.  I&#8217;d feel the same way if I found a police officer with a stash of coke in his garage.</p>
<p>Akismet is great (I swear it&#8217;s probably the greatest piece of blog plugin software I&#8217;ve ever seen and I&#8217;m using it with MT, it was one of the first things I installed) but the need for Akismet stems from the disaster of Spam Blogs which WordPress themselves created!!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry but I can&#8217;t support that.</p>
<p>I wish you all the best, Matt.  I understand that you&#8217;ve learned your lesson and like I said earlier, I appreciate your comments here.</p>
<p>Who knows&#8230;  Maybe one day WordPress will find its way back into my heart again.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13471','Vinny'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13471','Vinny','Thanks for responding Matt...\n\n1.  The rapid succession of bug fix releases says to me that things are going out the door with problems.\n\n2.  I agree that not everyone is immune, and even said as much.  It\'s still unacceptable.  The hard part for me is that not everyone in the WordPress community (particularly end users) is competent enough to do the fixes themselves and I reckon a lot of them don\'t even know that these fixes are out there.  Just take a look at how many people didn\'t even upgrade to 2.0 let alone 2.11!\n\n3.  I think you were let off easy.  Frankly, I\'m very connected to the community.  I own a hosting company and my partner does WordPress layouts.  We both have installed WordPress numerous times both for ourselves and our clients.  Neither one of us heard about this until this weekend, which means that most people probably didn\'t even know about it (in fact, read the two comments above yours...).\n\nI don\'t think we should flog you in the streets.  WordPress is a great product.  My only problems with it ever were the utterly useless forums where when you ask a question someone calls you a n00b or asks you to kindly read the FAQ or something.  I don\'t even have a problem with you in particular.  Really.\n\nI have a problem with what your actions represent.  I\'d feel the same way if I found a police officer with a stash of coke in his garage.\n\nAkismet is great (I swear it\'s probably the greatest piece of blog plugin software I\'ve ever seen and I\'m using it with MT, it was one of the first things I installed) but the need for Akismet stems from the disaster of Spam Blogs which WordPress themselves created!!\n\nI\'m sorry but I can\'t support that.\n\nI wish you all the best, Matt.  I understand that you\'ve learned your lesson and like I said earlier, I appreciate your comments here.\n\nWho knows...  Maybe one day WordPress will find its way back into my heart again.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. The frequency of release simply means that when we find a security problem we don&#039;t sit on it for months like commercial companies do, we put a fix out there ASAP. It&#039;s also a function of popularity -- I manage popular and unpopular projects, and something that would go unnoticed for years in the unpopular product get discovered and fixed within days in the popular one.

2. As part of the announcement we encouraged people to help out any friends who were unable to upgrade, and worked with hosting providers as well. To date there have been *no* reported compromised blogs as a result of the problem, and our internal stats show  that the upgrade message got out there really well. I would estimate there are at most a few dozen vulnerable 2.1.1 blogs left in the world.

3. If you didn&#039;t know about the incident, it&#039;s probably because you joined the community at least several months after it happened. It was covered on hundreds of blogs and MSNBC, The Register, Guardian, CNET, etc, and is still to this day promoted by people who have beef with me. It&#039;s also on my Wikipedia page.

However if you still missed it, it&#039;s probably because *I&#039;m not WordPress*. Again, I&#039;m very sorry that my personal mistakes caused you to dismiss the work of hundreds of passionate volunteers over several years.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;13472&#039;,&#039;Matt&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;13472&#039;,&#039;Matt&#039;,&#039;1. The frequency of release simply means that when we find a security problem we don\&#039;t sit on it for months like commercial companies do, we put a fix out there ASAP. It\&#039;s also a function of popularity -- I manage popular and unpopular projects, and something that would go unnoticed for years in the unpopular product get discovered and fixed within days in the popular one.\n\n2. As part of the announcement we encouraged people to help out any friends who were unable to upgrade, and worked with hosting providers as well. To date there have been *no* reported compromised blogs as a result of the problem, and our internal stats show  that the upgrade message got out there really well. I would estimate there are at most a few dozen vulnerable 2.1.1 blogs left in the world.\n\n3. If you didn\&#039;t know about the incident, it\&#039;s probably because you joined the community at least several months after it happened. It was covered on hundreds of blogs and MSNBC, The Register, Guardian, CNET, etc, and is still to this day promoted by people who have beef with me. It\&#039;s also on my Wikipedia page.\n\nHowever if you still missed it, it\&#039;s probably because *I\&#039;m not WordPress*. Again, I\&#039;m very sorry that my personal mistakes caused you to dismiss the work of hundreds of passionate volunteers over several years.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. The frequency of release simply means that when we find a security problem we don&#8217;t sit on it for months like commercial companies do, we put a fix out there ASAP. It&#8217;s also a function of popularity &#8212; I manage popular and unpopular projects, and something that would go unnoticed for years in the unpopular product get discovered and fixed within days in the popular one.</p>
<p>2. As part of the announcement we encouraged people to help out any friends who were unable to upgrade, and worked with hosting providers as well. To date there have been *no* reported compromised blogs as a result of the problem, and our internal stats show  that the upgrade message got out there really well. I would estimate there are at most a few dozen vulnerable 2.1.1 blogs left in the world.</p>
<p>3. If you didn&#8217;t know about the incident, it&#8217;s probably because you joined the community at least several months after it happened. It was covered on hundreds of blogs and MSNBC, The Register, Guardian, CNET, etc, and is still to this day promoted by people who have beef with me. It&#8217;s also on my Wikipedia page.</p>
<p>However if you still missed it, it&#8217;s probably because *I&#8217;m not WordPress*. Again, I&#8217;m very sorry that my personal mistakes caused you to dismiss the work of hundreds of passionate volunteers over several years.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13472','Matt'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13472','Matt','1. The frequency of release simply means that when we find a security problem we don\'t sit on it for months like commercial companies do, we put a fix out there ASAP. It\'s also a function of popularity -- I manage popular and unpopular projects, and something that would go unnoticed for years in the unpopular product get discovered and fixed within days in the popular one.\n\n2. As part of the announcement we encouraged people to help out any friends who were unable to upgrade, and worked with hosting providers as well. To date there have been *no* reported compromised blogs as a result of the problem, and our internal stats show  that the upgrade message got out there really well. I would estimate there are at most a few dozen vulnerable 2.1.1 blogs left in the world.\n\n3. If you didn\'t know about the incident, it\'s probably because you joined the community at least several months after it happened. It was covered on hundreds of blogs and MSNBC, The Register, Guardian, CNET, etc, and is still to this day promoted by people who have beef with me. It\'s also on my Wikipedia page.\n\nHowever if you still missed it, it\'s probably because *I\'m not WordPress*. Again, I\'m very sorry that my personal mistakes caused you to dismiss the work of hundreds of passionate volunteers over several years.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Vinny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinny</dc:creator>
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		<description>1.  That sounds a lot like spin to me.  In a strictly mathematical sense, you&#039;re 100% correct, but let&#039;s not kid ourselves.  WordPress used to release a new version on occasion as the need warranted.  Suddenly there&#039;s an increased awareness of bugs that requires fixing immediately?  No.  The product goes out the door and isn&#039;t as fully tested as it used to be thus the continual releases.

2.  Again, that sounds like spin.  Understand I don&#039;t blame you directly for what happened, but that doesn&#039;t make it any more acceptable.  I stand by my original point that this rapid succession upgrade process (which seems the way things roll now) will undoubtedly leave people behind.

3.  I started using WordPress in March of 2003 and have been blogging since January of 2002.  I guess &quot;all over the place&quot; is more about perception than anything else.  From the inside (ie:  You and the WP team), I&#039;m sure you couldn&#039;t escape it.  From the outside (ie:  everyone else) this sort of thing just wasn&#039;t that big a deal.

Either way, it&#039;s a moot point.  What&#039;s done is done and all that jazz.  I&#039;m just annoyed that one of the biggest banes of a blogger&#039;s existence can be traced back to the creators of one of the most popular software for blogging out there.  You&#039;ll understand if I don&#039;t feel like I&#039;m &quot;throwing away&quot; the work of others.

As for the repeated refrain &quot;I&#039;m not WordPress...&quot;  here&#039;s your Wikipedia opening:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Matthew Charles Mullenweg (born January 11, 1984 in Houston, Texas) is an entrepreneur living in San Francisco, California.

He is the founding developer of the popular open-source blogging software WordPress and writes a popular blog Photo Matt. After quitting his job at CNET, he has devoted the majority of his time to developing a number of open source projects and is a frequent speaker at conferences.

In late 2005, he founded Automattic, the business behind WordPress.com and Akismet.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You&#039;ll understand if I chuckle when you say you&#039;re not WordPress.  You may not be the whole company, but you&#039;re a lot more than a mailroom shlub.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;13473&#039;,&#039;Vinny&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;13473&#039;,&#039;Vinny&#039;,&#039;1.  That sounds a lot like spin to me.  In a strictly mathematical sense, you\&#039;re 100% correct, but let\&#039;s not kid ourselves.  WordPress used to release a new version on occasion as the need warranted.  Suddenly there\&#039;s an increased awareness of bugs that requires fixing immediately?  No.  The product goes out the door and isn\&#039;t as fully tested as it used to be thus the continual releases.\n\n2.  Again, that sounds like spin.  Understand I don\&#039;t blame you directly for what happened, but that doesn\&#039;t make it any more acceptable.  I stand by my original point that this rapid succession upgrade process (which seems the way things roll now) will undoubtedly leave people behind.\n\n3.  I started using WordPress in March of 2003 and have been blogging since January of 2002.  I guess \&quot;all over the place\&quot; is more about perception than anything else.  From the inside (ie:  You and the WP team), I\&#039;m sure you couldn\&#039;t escape it.  From the outside (ie:  everyone else) this sort of thing just wasn\&#039;t that big a deal.\n\nEither way, it\&#039;s a moot point.  What\&#039;s done is done and all that jazz.  I\&#039;m just annoyed that one of the biggest banes of a blogger\&#039;s existence can be traced back to the creators of one of the most popular software for blogging out there.  You\&#039;ll understand if I don\&#039;t feel like I\&#039;m \&quot;throwing away\&quot; the work of others.\n\nAs for the repeated refrain \&quot;I\&#039;m not WordPress...\&quot;  here\&#039;s your Wikipedia opening:\n\n&lt;blockquote&gt;Matthew Charles Mullenweg (born January 11, 1984 in Houston, Texas) is an entrepreneur living in San Francisco, California.\n\nHe is the founding developer of the popular open-source blogging software WordPress and writes a popular blog Photo Matt. After quitting his job at CNET, he has devoted the majority of his time to developing a number of open source projects and is a frequent speaker at conferences.\n\nIn late 2005, he founded Automattic, the business behind WordPress.com and Akismet.&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\n\nYou\&#039;ll understand if I chuckle when you say you\&#039;re not WordPress.  You may not be the whole company, but you\&#039;re a lot more than a mailroom shlub.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.  That sounds a lot like spin to me.  In a strictly mathematical sense, you&#8217;re 100% correct, but let&#8217;s not kid ourselves.  WordPress used to release a new version on occasion as the need warranted.  Suddenly there&#8217;s an increased awareness of bugs that requires fixing immediately?  No.  The product goes out the door and isn&#8217;t as fully tested as it used to be thus the continual releases.</p>
<p>2.  Again, that sounds like spin.  Understand I don&#8217;t blame you directly for what happened, but that doesn&#8217;t make it any more acceptable.  I stand by my original point that this rapid succession upgrade process (which seems the way things roll now) will undoubtedly leave people behind.</p>
<p>3.  I started using WordPress in March of 2003 and have been blogging since January of 2002.  I guess &#8220;all over the place&#8221; is more about perception than anything else.  From the inside (ie:  You and the WP team), I&#8217;m sure you couldn&#8217;t escape it.  From the outside (ie:  everyone else) this sort of thing just wasn&#8217;t that big a deal.</p>
<p>Either way, it&#8217;s a moot point.  What&#8217;s done is done and all that jazz.  I&#8217;m just annoyed that one of the biggest banes of a blogger&#8217;s existence can be traced back to the creators of one of the most popular software for blogging out there.  You&#8217;ll understand if I don&#8217;t feel like I&#8217;m &#8220;throwing away&#8221; the work of others.</p>
<p>As for the repeated refrain &#8220;I&#8217;m not WordPress&#8230;&#8221;  here&#8217;s your Wikipedia opening:</p>
<blockquote><p>Matthew Charles Mullenweg (born January 11, 1984 in Houston, Texas) is an entrepreneur living in San Francisco, California.</p>
<p>He is the founding developer of the popular open-source blogging software WordPress and writes a popular blog Photo Matt. After quitting his job at CNET, he has devoted the majority of his time to developing a number of open source projects and is a frequent speaker at conferences.</p>
<p>In late 2005, he founded Automattic, the business behind WordPress.com and Akismet.</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;ll understand if I chuckle when you say you&#8217;re not WordPress.  You may not be the whole company, but you&#8217;re a lot more than a mailroom shlub.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13473','Vinny'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13473','Vinny','1.  That sounds a lot like spin to me.  In a strictly mathematical sense, you\'re 100% correct, but let\'s not kid ourselves.  WordPress used to release a new version on occasion as the need warranted.  Suddenly there\'s an increased awareness of bugs that requires fixing immediately?  No.  The product goes out the door and isn\'t as fully tested as it used to be thus the continual releases.\n\n2.  Again, that sounds like spin.  Understand I don\'t blame you directly for what happened, but that doesn\'t make it any more acceptable.  I stand by my original point that this rapid succession upgrade process (which seems the way things roll now) will undoubtedly leave people behind.\n\n3.  I started using WordPress in March of 2003 and have been blogging since January of 2002.  I guess \&quot;all over the place\&quot; is more about perception than anything else.  From the inside (ie:  You and the WP team), I\'m sure you couldn\'t escape it.  From the outside (ie:  everyone else) this sort of thing just wasn\'t that big a deal.\n\nEither way, it\'s a moot point.  What\'s done is done and all that jazz.  I\'m just annoyed that one of the biggest banes of a blogger\'s existence can be traced back to the creators of one of the most popular software for blogging out there.  You\'ll understand if I don\'t feel like I\'m \&quot;throwing away\&quot; the work of others.\n\nAs for the repeated refrain \&quot;I\'m not WordPress...\&quot;  here\'s your Wikipedia opening:\n\n&lt;blockquote&gt;Matthew Charles Mullenweg (born January 11, 1984 in Houston, Texas) is an entrepreneur living in San Francisco, California.\n\nHe is the founding developer of the popular open-source blogging software WordPress and writes a popular blog Photo Matt. After quitting his job at CNET, he has devoted the majority of his time to developing a number of open source projects and is a frequent speaker at conferences.\n\nIn late 2005, he founded Automattic, the business behind WordPress.com and Akismet.&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\n\nYou\'ll understand if I chuckle when you say you\'re not WordPress.  You may not be the whole company, but you\'re a lot more than a mailroom shlub.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Akismet is great (I swear it&#039;s probably the greatest piece of blog plugin software I&#039;ve ever seen and I&#039;m using it with MT, it was one of the first things I installed) but the need for Akismet stems from the disaster of Spam Blogs which WordPress themselves created!!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ve been trying to get wrapped around that line of thinking since reading your post.  What kind of monetary gain is there from Akismet?  It&#039;s offered freely, so I&#039;m imagining at most not that much.  Though, if there &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; some sort of gain to be had, this is poisoning everyone&#039;s water (creating the problem) and selling the antedote for $100 a pop (profiteering with the solution).&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;13474&#039;,&#039;Chris&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;13474&#039;,&#039;Chris&#039;,&#039;&lt;blockquote&gt;Akismet is great (I swear it\&#039;s probably the greatest piece of blog plugin software I\&#039;ve ever seen and I\&#039;m using it with MT, it was one of the first things I installed) but the need for Akismet stems from the disaster of Spam Blogs which WordPress themselves created!!&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\n\nI\&#039;ve been trying to get wrapped around that line of thinking since reading your post.  What kind of monetary gain is there from Akismet?  It\&#039;s offered freely, so I\&#039;m imagining at most not that much.  Though, if there &lt;i&gt;is&lt;\/i&gt; some sort of gain to be had, this is poisoning everyone\&#039;s water (creating the problem) and selling the antedote for $100 a pop (profiteering with the solution).&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Akismet is great (I swear it&#8217;s probably the greatest piece of blog plugin software I&#8217;ve ever seen and I&#8217;m using it with MT, it was one of the first things I installed) but the need for Akismet stems from the disaster of Spam Blogs which WordPress themselves created!!</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve been trying to get wrapped around that line of thinking since reading your post.  What kind of monetary gain is there from Akismet?  It&#8217;s offered freely, so I&#8217;m imagining at most not that much.  Though, if there <i>is</i> some sort of gain to be had, this is poisoning everyone&#8217;s water (creating the problem) and selling the antedote for $100 a pop (profiteering with the solution).
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13474','Chris'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13474','Chris','&lt;blockquote&gt;Akismet is great (I swear it\'s probably the greatest piece of blog plugin software I\'ve ever seen and I\'m using it with MT, it was one of the first things I installed) but the need for Akismet stems from the disaster of Spam Blogs which WordPress themselves created!!&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\n\nI\'ve been trying to get wrapped around that line of thinking since reading your post.  What kind of monetary gain is there from Akismet?  It\'s offered freely, so I\'m imagining at most not that much.  Though, if there &lt;i&gt;is&lt;\/i&gt; some sort of gain to be had, this is poisoning everyone\'s water (creating the problem) and selling the antedote for $100 a pop (profiteering with the solution).'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Vinny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinny</dc:creator>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t ever say there was a monetary gain in Akismet, but there&#039;s no gain to be had in any open source project, really...&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;13475&#039;,&#039;Vinny&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;13475&#039;,&#039;Vinny&#039;,&#039;I didn\&#039;t ever say there was a monetary gain in Akismet, but there\&#039;s no gain to be had in any open source project, really...&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t ever say there was a monetary gain in Akismet, but there&#8217;s no gain to be had in any open source project, really&#8230;
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13475','Vinny'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13475','Vinny','I didn\'t ever say there was a monetary gain in Akismet, but there\'s no gain to be had in any open source project, really...'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
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		<description>I know you didn&#039;t say that, and I made the same conclusion in my comment that open source  doesn&#039;t endow the wallet.  (Except for adverts, perhaps?)  I guess in a roundabout way I was simply agreeing with your point that Matt was let off too easy.  If this had been some sort of business venture or just anything with dollar signs hooked on to it there would be all sorts of 2.0 outrage.
&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;13476&#039;,&#039;Chris&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;13476&#039;,&#039;Chris&#039;,&#039;I know you didn\&#039;t say that, and I made the same conclusion in my comment that open source  doesn\&#039;t endow the wallet.  (Except for adverts, perhaps?)  I guess in a roundabout way I was simply agreeing with your point that Matt was let off too easy.  If this had been some sort of business venture or just anything with dollar signs hooked on to it there would be all sorts of 2.0 outrage.\n&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know you didn&#8217;t say that, and I made the same conclusion in my comment that open source  doesn&#8217;t endow the wallet.  (Except for adverts, perhaps?)  I guess in a roundabout way I was simply agreeing with your point that Matt was let off too easy.  If this had been some sort of business venture or just anything with dollar signs hooked on to it there would be all sorts of 2.0 outrage.</p>
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13476','Chris'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13476','Chris','I know you didn\'t say that, and I made the same conclusion in my comment that open source  doesn\'t endow the wallet.  (Except for adverts, perhaps?)  I guess in a roundabout way I was simply agreeing with your point that Matt was let off too easy.  If this had been some sort of business venture or just anything with dollar signs hooked on to it there would be all sorts of 2.0 outrage.\n'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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