Saturday night, for the first time in history, a Mixed Martial Arts event was held on primetime television. Hosted by CBS, the EliteXC crew hauled out the dancing girls, ring entry music, and fireworks that would make you think it was a WWE event, not a fight. They even enlisted the help of legendary ring announcer Jimmy Lennon Jr.
All told, the night held some promise. One of my favorites, Gina Carano (aka Crush on American Gladiators) was fighting, and headlining the card was Kimbo Slice, a monster from Nassau that rose to fame by pummeling the crap out of his opponents on the street and in alleys on Youtube (watch some of his victims here). He was fighting a warm body by the name of James Thompson, a huge tough guy with more experience but a few shaky losses to go along with it.
I won’t recap the entire card, but there were some serious issues with it.
The first issue came during the Robbie Lawler / Scott Smith fight. For most of the fight, Smith utterly pounded the crap out of the champ Robbie Lawler. In the third round, an errant finger to the eye caused the doctor at ringside to check Smith’s eye. The rule for EliteXC contests is that Smith has five minutes to recover. As soon as Smith put his hand over his eye, the ref paused the fight and the doctor came in the ring. After initially looking at Smith’s left eye (not the one he got poked in) she looked at his right eye, had a chat with Smith, and the fight was stopped instantaneously and well ahead of five minutes. Smith wasn’t given his full time to recover and Lawler retained his belt. Smith was livid, and Gary Shaw, the President of Elite XC, gave Smith and Lawler both their bonuses for the fight because of the controversy surrounding the stoppage.
The second issue came well after the Kimbo Slice fight. In the early stages of an earlier fight, the announcers were talking about how Brett Rogers (who won by TKO like every other winner) thought he should be the one facing Kimbo Slice and not James Thompson. Watch this post fight interview below. Kudos to MMARated.com for not shying away from asking tough questions…
Did you catch that? At 1:49 of the interview, Gary Shaw answers a question about Brett Rogers being Slice’s next opponent (transcript via Cage Potato).
“Brett is gonna have to learn that it’s about the money…I don’t think [a fight between Brett Rogers and Kimbo Slice] is a fight that I would do. I might do Brett Rogers against [Antonio] Silva…but that’s what makes me a promoter. I appreciate all you guys, but you don’t run me. I’m just saying, I don’t read blogs, I don’t read anything…I run a professional sports franchise. My job is to put asses in seats, build stars, build superstars, not let someone guide me who fights who.”
Wait, what?
That strikes me as someone way more interested in establishing the Kimbo Slice brand than putting a fight the fans want in the ring. I’m not saying it’s a democratic process, but that being said, after that fight, the reason is pretty obvious why he won’t put Brett Rogers in with Kimbo Slice. He’d beat the everloving crap out of him.
And speaking of the Thompson-Slice fight, there’s something else a bit strange going on.
A MMA site (the name of which I can’t remember) had the scorecards for the fight, and one judge scored the second round of that fight 10-8 for Slice where the other two scored it 10-9 for Thompson. In a ten-point-must system, winning by one is standard, winning by two means you dominated the round. For Slice to have won by two, he should’ve, at the very least, won on the other cards, but he didn’t. He lost. That makes no sense to anyone following the fight.
Understand that I’m not giving that much weight to a random blog posting cards, but when taken with the fact that all the “favorites” won their match because of a stoppage (there were no knockouts in any of the fights that aired on CBS), and you have to wonder what the hell is going on.
Finally, there’s the question of the “pushing” of Kimbo Slice. Is it Gary Shaw’s job to promote the best fight or the best fighters? After the performance Slice put in against Thompson, people are clammoring for him to fight a quality fighter (Brett Rogers would be a good place to start). Rogers, his manager, and team, sent this letter to EliteXC:
On behalf of Brett Rogers, Team Bison and everyone representing our camp: we would like to clarify a few issues that may be mis- interrupted by the press and the many many message boards.
First we would like to start out by once again thanking Gary Shaw and Elite XC. Elite is our home and it is where we hope to be for a long time. They treat their fighters great. More then the day to day treatment of the fighters they are interested in developing fighters and making long term commitments to their fighters. Unlike other promotions who have a tradition of “one and done” and cancelling contracts without notice; Elite is standing by their fighters. We are proud to be with the organization that brought back Yves, Sammy and Phil when others wrote them off. We were proud to be part of an organization that gave James Thompson a chance at redemption (and in our mind earned another chance on Saturday!). Elite gave us an amazing opportunity to bring aboard great sponsors who could really get their money’s worth.
We really believe in Elite and hope to bring more of our fighters up through their ranks. We do not want anyone to think for a second we are ungrateful, angry or otherwise disappointed with Gary Shaw, Elite, Showtime or CBS. And no; we have not been forced or threatened to say this and anyone who thinks we could be does not know Team Bison. Simply put; we will always speak our minds and will not be intimidated; which brings us to the Kimbo situation.
Brett had won 6 fight before coming to Elite. He struggled on the local circuit to find fights. He was pretty much avoided from day 1. The guys he fought simply provided zero competition and he put them all away early. When he fought for the regional title he fought a guy who was 10-1 and suppose to be this great striker. Brett KO’d him in under 10 seconds. We went to Hawaii where despite changing the rules as we stepped through the ropes and again during the fight; Brett KO’d his opponent. Finally we got to go BIG and face serious competition in Elite XC in Texas. The main event on that show was Kimbo Slice vs Bo Cantrall. Bo is a sub .500 fighter who was on a 4 fight losing streak when he got the call to come to Elite. On that show Brett faced Ralph Kelly who a decent up and comer with a good amateur record. Brett had a tougher opponent but got less money and a on the Under Card.
Next stop Miami where Kimbo is again the main event and blown up huge. His opponent; the venerable Tank Abbot. I believe the last time Tank won a democrat was in the White House and gas was $1.50 a gallon. Brett took on Pride veteran James Thompson for way less money and way down on the card. Brett puts him away in the 1st half of the 1st round.
CBS show. Kimbo gets the same James Thompson Brett had just KO’d. James coming in losing 3 of his last 4 and his last two straight by KO. Brett gets the opening spot against Jon Murphy. Murphy a 9-2 fighter with great Jujitsu who had impressively KO’d Dave Huckabee. Again the tougher fight for less money. 3 times running – tougher guys for less money. Not a great pattern!
And you know we would be fine with that as well; however Kimbo is not only getting the softer spots and the heavier cheddar (as they say) he is also being pushed as the monster; best fighter in the organization. As a fighter Brett is expected to want to fight the best. Our Team has a focus to be the best. Elite is our home and we are told KIMBO is the best. Now why would Brett want to fight anyone else? Every interview Brett has done since before the Kelly fight has started and ended with a Kimbo question. It is only natural he would like to answer the Kimbo question once and for all.
On a personal note: we like Kimbo very much. We have nothing but respect for him, Bas and the love and support his crew shows him. We could do with out the silliness to be sure; but hey it is the fight game and some times people just have to act that way; even if they don’t. But this isn’t about hating the man or his accomplishments. This is about being the best. We respect Kimbo does this to feed his kids, care for his family. Brett has a family too.
Fighting is about challenging yourself; testing the limits. It is about courage and strength and honor. There is no honor is fighting down a tier. Elite is saying this man is the best – We are Elite! Brett has earned the opportunity to fight the best. Everyone he has fought got dusted in the first round. It is time to see how he does at the top of card against the man they are pushing as the standard bearer.
If they believe that Kimbo is not ready for Brett; that Brett is too dangerous for Kimbo – We can accept that. Frankly there are a lot of people Brett shouldn’t be allowed to fight and maybe Kimbo is one of those people. We are fine with that decision. All we ask then is that we be allowed to be in that spot with all it’s benefits and responsibilities and take any and all comers without reservations.
This letter would not be complete without mentioning the other forgotten man in all this, Antonio “Big Foot” Silva. Antonio is a certified, absolute all around warrior. He is one of the very best heavyweight fighters in the world. We have a world of respect for Antonio and ATT and would consider it a tremendous honor to compete with him. If it was a fight for the title; if was billed as the fight between the two best fighters in Elite; we would be overjoyed. However it does not seem right that Brett and Antonio should be fighting just to see who gets to be the number 2 man behind Kimbo.
I’m willing to bet that Antonio feels the same way. As true warriors we want to fight the best and right now everything; judging by the money, the publicity and the billboards; that is Kimbo. Has Kimbo earned that spot? We are not convinced. So we are calling Kimbo out. If this is a challenge he does not feel ready to accept; that is cool. That we can understand. But it is somewhat unreasonable to ask everyone to play second fiddle – to fight tougher opponents for less money while another fighter makes bank on the also rans. Brett has fought three very tough heavy weights with legitimate skills. The result in every one of those fights was a first round KO. No decisions, no controversy just straight up cart them off wins. Yet every interview and every place he goes he hears Kimbo this, Kimbo that. Hell, if we were not asking to fight Kimbo, Gary would be ashamed of us and would be wondering what type of wimps he had fighting for him. If Kimbo is the badest man on the planet; then lets do this thing. All due respect…step up or step aside.
Thank You
Brett Rogers, Mike Reilly, and Team Bison
And just today, after the abysmal performance over the weekend, Gary Shaw again sang the praises of his cash cow, Kimbo Slice…
The more interviews with Elite XC’s Gary Shaw I read, the more I wonder if he’s fully in control of the things he says to reporters. He does know they’re writing this stuff down, right? If so, he either doesn’t know what he’s talking about or doesn’t have much of a commitment to the truth. Maybe it’s both. But this interview with AOL Sports is just, well, baffling.
For instance, when asked where Shaw would rank Kimbo Slice in MMA’s heavyweight picture, he had this to say:
“I don’t know. He’s still in the learning process. He needs to work on his cardio a lot more. In his stand-up game, he is probably number one. I don’t think on the ground he’s in the top 10. As a striker, he’s probably number one.”
You read that right, the best heavyweight striker in all of MMA. Number one. I was about to list off a bunch of other heavyweights who are probably better pure strikers than Kimbo, but within a few seconds that list became unmanageable and I was forced to abandon the idea. The point is, this is not a true statement. If Gary Shaw believes it to be true, that simply means that he doesn’t know much about the sport. If he doesn’t believe it but is saying it anyway, is he helping or hurting Kimbo Slice?
If anyone watched that fight this weekend, and can swallow that puke, they’re idiots.
Gary Shaw is very obviously deeply invested in the Kimbo Slice business and is going to be protecting him from anyone who could put him out of the spotlight before he’s made his share of money for the company, but in the end, is that what’s best for the fans and the sport? Not as far as I can tell.
And who knows… Maybe a lucky shot here and there and it’s Brett Rogers laying on the ground as Kimbo Slice raises his hands in victory. The truth is, we’ll never know because Shaw will never let Slice fight a guy who, as Cage Potato says, is a better fighter.
I like Kimbo. He’s incredible to watch and when he’s dominant, it’s insane how badly he beats people up. That being said, beating up a bunch of ham and eggers (as Bobby Heenan used to call ‘em) doesn’t make you a main event attraction or a top fighter in the sport, and when he hits 100 wins with zero losses, Shaw just might have to put him on the block against a substantive challenger.
Only then are we going to know how great Kimbo really is.